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good afternoon

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welcome to the beginning of the

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seven

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hour

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marathon

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yeah i'm late i'm late justin four

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minutes late

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we're gonna be here for seven hours so

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that four minutes will seem

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i'm going to start off with

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the experiencer

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panel

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because that is my

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least

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let's see

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seven hours if i'm here seven hours i

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will be

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passed out

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because i will need to eat i don't know

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how long it's gonna take but i'm gonna

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go through

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the the stuff i'm gonna spend the most

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time on is is lou and then the panel

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with lou

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because there were some really good

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moments there which i will try to

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reenact from my memory so anyway the

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experiencer panel

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was a late edition with anjali and she

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supporters and detractors and

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as i've said before

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i don't know if she had her experiences

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i i haven't sensed you know

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deception but

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there are people that really don't like

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her but there are people who really

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don't like a lot of people

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you know michael

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look up gets a lot of that stuff too

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i wish i had the glue on goatee this is

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my that's my lou when i do i'm going to

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do that

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so

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this uh moderator was alan steinfeld who

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actually did pretty good moving it along

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uh so it's mark sims

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who is with danny sheen new paradigm

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institute uh chris bledsoe ray hernandez

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from free

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whitley

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alan steinfeld your book making contact

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last month

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was wonderful

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if you're not paranoid he goes this

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whitley starts off if you're not

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paranoid you're not saying and then he

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says what is contact that's my whittling

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impersonation we don't know enough about

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it to know if it's something we can do

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has one of the marks he has one of the

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mark sims radios i don't know if you

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guys have seen it i saw a little of that

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lecture where

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they're

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allegedly getting

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you know contact with these beings or

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whatever and it's making these radios go

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making these specific noise noises i

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didn't get to hear that

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but whitley has one of those radios and

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he said it never stopped making the

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noise during the lecture that mark and

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his friend were giving and um i don't

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know who the other guy is his uh

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research partner on that

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and whitley says his radio was talking

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to mark's radio making the same noises

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how is that possible

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so um

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willie goes what's going on

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he says jeffrey kripal who spoke earlier

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sees it in a much more ambiguous way

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than just physical et's

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but cripel does not rule that out too

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you know they could be here

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along with whatever

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there is willie says there is something

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we need but we don't know what it is

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we need to look outside but

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this is within us too and then he

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mentions his deceased wife annie who's

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still with him he believes that they're

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one soul now and he uh said he once

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asked her for lottery numbers and she

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said forget it

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and then he mentioned to alan the host

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alan you look nervous he goes just relax

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i'll be done in under three minutes

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don't worry about it it was pretty funny

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um

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amy his deceased wife told him they are

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they are inward beings what we're

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that vis that whitley calls the visitors

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and whitley asked her what does that

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mean and annie and he didn't respond she

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which whitley took it to mean that the

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question needs to remain open

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so how do we leave the question open and

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advanced contact that's the question

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and then anjali jumps in she's like you

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know allen moved on to her

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and if allen ever ever gets to see this

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i didn't really i did not take notes on

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allen only because i was tired and just

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trying to get through last night

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um i did my best did the best i could

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anjali says i'm not really sure why i'm

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here on this panel i'm looking forward

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to other experiences and hearing about

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everybody else and how it's related to

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consciousness and then allen says okay

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we'll come back to you that was her

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the free

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uh the group and how it was a group of

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retired phd academic researchers

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rudy scheidler and maybe pronouncing his

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name wrong kathleen martin leo sprinkle

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mary rodwell and then he talks about the

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study statistical look statistical look

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at experiencers the book is called

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beyond ufos and much of their data

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contradicts what's circulating in

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says i have not read the book i have it

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then he talked about someone he knows a

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spanish member of the spanish free

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member i guess they have a i don't know

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that person was on the phone and the

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phone call was interrupted by their

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the phrase what it's called a lot of

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people have had contact alleged contact

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with deceased relatives deceased friends

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it's more common than you think

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a coincidence that the three contact

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modalities and he says contact

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modalities are how you connect with the

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um but ray thought it was interesting

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that in the 70s he didn't think it was

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an accident that star trek came around

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life out about you know near-death

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experiences and then robert monroe who

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and then ray talks about how he brought

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this subject up with his barber and

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another person was there and all of a

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sudden the barber was talking about orbs

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and obes and all that stuff

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and ray thinks it's an orchestrated

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event all of this stuff going on now

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thank you walker and if i don't if you

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i'm not saying to do or don't but if you

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do don't donate money and i don't see it

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please i have don't be mad at me because

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my notes up on the screen which is

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i can move you know i can move so i can

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at least see comments but i'm trying not

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yes i mean i'll touch on the eric davis

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the time i grabbed my phone but during

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the panel i have word for word um but i

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will have word for word

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when i do the transcripts hopefully

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they're gonna give me access to the

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so chris bledsoe 2007 sorry

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he's not into spirituality or ufos just

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crohn's disease and he was sick for 17

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inconsistencies in his story i don't

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know his story that well i've heard it i

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don't know specifics like i know the a

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tip story where i could hear something

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that is different from before so

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anyway so bledsoe had to near that

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sick with crohn's he was ready to give

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fishing trip and then all of a sudden

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there were two big balls of fire he ran

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and then the last next thing he knows he

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had he had four four hours of missing

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disease told his church church came over

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his house brought all this holy water he

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house because they thought it was evil

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he shouted that it was angels but they

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ufo people wanted it to be aliens the

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church wanted to be demons but he felt

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it was diff he felt it was different

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something different and then easter of

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he was in med so he went outside and saw

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the lady i don't know if you guys have

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ever seen the lady but

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i actually made a joke she kind of looks

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blonde hair in white

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chris bledsoe on the lady you should be

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able to find it and she said to him she

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said this is your burden to bear and he

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said he took that as meaning it's up to

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him to tell a story

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then he visited a young boy in

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washington

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uh who was sick and close to death and

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that boy was healed so i think bledsoe

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is insinuating and i've heard other

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people's talk talk about it he could

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heal people after his experience which

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other people have had that too

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other people have reported that too

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that kid is now 19 he just came to visit

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chris

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and the lady told

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chris to tell the world what he knows

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mentions that

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in 2012 ray hernandez's dog was healed

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bledsoe had his lady experience mark had

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his experience with teshbar

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he mentioned the mayans and that might

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be a connection

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and the mark says

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because of 2012. and mark says my

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journey has been very personal and

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difficult

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it has changed all of our lives and

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forced us to recalibrate our world views

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we've been on this arc that initially

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initially was so shocking and

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disorientating our families were worried

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and he's talking about all the people

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who have had experiences bledsoe

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because our families were worried we had

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confession and concern and denial

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luckily he says he was blessed with

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success and wealth

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and he has committed his life to this

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he was a devout atheist but now he's no

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longer an atheist he was forced to face

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the truth of his experience of what he

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learned

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he asked questions

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how are the et's what was his experience

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what what's consciousness and what's

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reality

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he doesn't have all the answers and he

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considers whitley a brother like a

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brother and then anjali which was she

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was in her i don't know where she was i

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was making a joke to myself

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it looked like she was in a closet

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um

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but she looked good

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um

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and she had some interesting things to

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say

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you're all my distant relatives as a

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joke um

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thought her first experience began in

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2017 but has since learned i believe she

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had

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i'm not sure how many sessions but she

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had regression sessions with barbara lam

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and she said

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she now believes she has had contact

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throughout her life since she was a

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child uh it was very phys her

347
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experiences are very very physical and

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extremely conscious uh conscious

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experiences

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uh she can have conscious contact at

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will it's completely transformed her

352
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life she goes i don't even know how to

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have a normal conversation with kids

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with friends with her partner i mean

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when her partner talks about his

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business and personally she doesn't even

357
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needs she doesn't even know how to have

358
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that conversation

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so obviously

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she says this has really affected her

361
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i mean

362
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i understand that to a degree but i've

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never had that type of type of

364
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experience but yeah when you get into

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this stuff and then people want to talk

366
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about everyday life and you're like what

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about this stuff this is what's more

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important

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so i guess that's her experience times

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she had a near-death experience in the

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hospital

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that was 2017 she saw spirits and others

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who had just passed away and then she

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went home

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had poltergeist activity

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and led to conscious contact at home a

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being that appeared in her consciousness

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but it wasn't in the room this is when

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she was home so this being appeared in

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her consciousness couldn't see it in the

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room but she felt like it was there and

382
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it took up space in a very specific part

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of the room

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had a couple of other experiences within

385
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a few weeks which rocked her

386
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psychologically was i hallucinating

387
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was i a target of psyops did i really

388
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:33,039
experience this she had questions and no

389
00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:35,200
idea how to get answers so she met a

390
00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:36,240
friend this is the

391
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infamous

392
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i met a friend for coffee

393
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in california and

394
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this couple came in wayne and his wife

395
00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:45,200
uh and it was like communal seating so

396
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they sat down next to her and a friend

397
00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:49,919
she was with a friend and waste wayne

398
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asked her what do you think about aliens

399
00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:54,000
and she said i love them

400
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would you like to meet some so she

401
00:17:59,750 --> 00:17:57,840
learned later that the beings had sent

402
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wayne and trisha to the coffee shop to

403
00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:01,760
get her

404
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uh excavated went back to his place so

405
00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:05,280
he had excavated into this mountain he

406
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owned a construction company into the

407
00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:08,400
tunnel this is where they're supposedly

408
00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:10,080
going in the near future i think she

409
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said fall and she's gonna bring

410
00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:13,120
scientists and hopefully media and maybe

411
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:15,360
george knapp

412
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went into the tunnel there was a gray

413
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standing there and there were several

414
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tall whites who were all dressed the

415
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same why

416
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that's what she said why are they

417
00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:24,320
dressed all the same she didn't answer

418
00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:25,120
that

419
00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:26,960
the gray addressed her through conscious

420
00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:29,600
contact not telepathy imagine her mind

421
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,200
with all the information she needs to

422
00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:33,760
understand in other words a download

423
00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:36,160
she says it's a much more complete form

424
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of communication they want us to be

425
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communicating with each other the way

426
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they communicate with her with her

427
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so when we share the same space as them

428
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they can compute communicate easier with

429
00:18:49,669 --> 00:18:47,919
us that way

430
00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:49,679
she goes i know some have had traumatic

431
00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:50,720
experience

432
00:18:57,669 --> 00:18:55,120
being that could hide their intentions

433
00:18:59,430 --> 00:18:57,679
what i received from them is so full and

434
00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:59,440
then whitley said this resonates with me

435
00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:01,280
tremendously

436
00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:02,799
whitley said he's convinced there's a

437
00:19:07,510 --> 00:19:04,880
minefield he talks about his 3am

438
00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,520
meditations and he uses his implant now

439
00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:09,440
whitley had this implant in his ear i

440
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:11,200
believe there was a human involved in

441
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:14,080
that story putting that implant in

442
00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:16,000
there's a video of a surgery trying to

443
00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:17,520
get the implant out where the doctor

444
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:19,039
goes in and the implant moves and the

445
00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:20,400
doctor's like you know what it's not

446
00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:22,480
even worth destroying your ear

447
00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:25,039
um

448
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:27,039
physically you know it would have not

449
00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:28,320
looked good if he would have went in and

450
00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:29,520
he's like just leave it so they just

451
00:19:33,669 --> 00:19:31,360
left it in

452
00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,679
so he said he's excited about anjali uh

453
00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:35,840
what she's saying she goes you're he

454
00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:37,600
goes you're on you're in a frontier if

455
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:39,280
we could spread that making contact

456
00:19:43,510 --> 00:19:41,440
becomes much larger than we are and

457
00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:43,520
anjali said they told me that my mission

458
00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:45,760
is to tell people what they tell me and

459
00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:47,360
help facilitate the contact that we're

460
00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:49,600
going to need and then ray jumps in he

461
00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:50,559
says

462
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:52,640
it's not just physical et's all of these

463
00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:59,430
that's one of the possibilities that

464
00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:01,360
these things are all connected

465
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:03,600
especially if you read john keel i mean

466
00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:06,559
i thought about that but

467
00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:08,159
i'm not sure they're all connected they

468
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:09,600
may be

469
00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,880
hernandez talks as if it's a fact so

470
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:14,400
i don't know

471
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:16,240
and hernandez ray hernandez says we've

472
00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:17,520
all had spiritual spiritual

473
00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:20,240
transformations i was more of an atheist

474
00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:23,120
than mark sims he goes he goes i learned

475
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:25,840
all of this via multiple ndes

476
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:27,600
uh

477
00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:29,840
he was successful four times in calling

478
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:33,039
down ufos he also had downloads started

479
00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:35,200
with started with his wife in this is a

480
00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:38,960
famous story uh in march 12 2012

481
00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:40,720
she was praying for their 15 year old

482
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:42,720
dog which was totally paralyzed and they

483
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,480
were about to put him down

484
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:46,320
and he told his wife yeah pray all you

485
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:47,840
want it's not going help

486
00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:49,600
she was carrying out the dog to take

487
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:51,520
take it to the bathroom and she saw a

488
00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:52,799
craft

489
00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:54,400
she thought it was angels a very

490
00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:57,120
religious woman she grabbed rey he came

491
00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:58,960
outside and then right in front of rey

492
00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:00,960
she he says that she and the dog

493
00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:02,960
disappeared and an energy being appeared

494
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:05,919
in front of him and put him to sleep

495
00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:07,840
later the the dog when they went back

496
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:09,360
inside that everything was over the dog

497
00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:10,880
was running around the living room the

498
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:13,039
wife said the angels cured the dog

499
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:14,960
uh the wife started praying outside one

500
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:17,440
day a huge ufo appeared

501
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,080
ray was like i want some of that action

502
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:22,559
so in august 2012 he tried it a huge

503
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:24,880
object the size of a football stadium or

504
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:29,510
appeared and the beings went into his

505
00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:31,280
mind and uploaded his daughter's voice

506
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:34,480
saying daddy if you see ufos you call me

507
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,440
um

508
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,200
and then he mentions joseph burps who

509
00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:39,120
used to be a higher up in cece who i

510
00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:40,720
spoke i spoke to him last year when i

511
00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:42,960
was talking about wilson davis uh

512
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:45,280
because he knew will miller well

513
00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:46,240
um

514
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:48,320
but he said he talks to joseph burke's

515
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:49,679
and will miller was part of the wilson

516
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:52,480
davis documents his letter is in there

517
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:54,559
talk to joseph burks about burke's

518
00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:57,120
virtual reality hypothesis so burks

519
00:22:02,310 --> 00:21:59,919
thinks these whatever this intelligence

520
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:02,320
is they can tap into the

521
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:04,000
the optic nerve and make you see

522
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:05,520
whatever they want you to see so

523
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:07,280
whatever you're seeing probably isn't

524
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:08,720
reality

525
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:11,039
and and then ray talks about one object

526
00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:13,039
he was seeing that was replaced complete

527
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:15,120
by a completely different object and

528
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:17,600
then mentions the 4200 experiencers in

529
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:20,320
the freeze survey

530
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:22,080
and in 2012

531
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,520
saw an nd nda nde book on amazon and he

532
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:27,600
consumed it he spent 18 hours a day on

533
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:30,240
consciousness and ndes

534
00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:31,760
his wife told him to go to a

535
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:38,070
i mean i had a similar thing a similar

536
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:39,760
thing happened in 96 when i read

537
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:41,200
communion

538
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:42,400
and then i bought all of these

539
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:44,720
metaphysical books but

540
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,720
i went to the beach and hung out at the

541
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:48,159
beach and

542
00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:52,080
i wasn't doing it 18 hours a day

543
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:53,600
that might have been you know i talked

544
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:55,360
about having an experienced sighting i

545
00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:58,000
might have had one back then but

546
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:00,880
it was a red thing on the horizon way

547
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:03,440
out so it's really hard to tell but i

548
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:05,280
was reading channel material back then

549
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:08,640
like it was out of style i was reading

550
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,640
what was it you were a galactic human by

551
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:12,720
sheldon knightl i read

552
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,880
kryon i think all the cry on books at

553
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,640
the time so anyway

554
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:18,480
so i can relate to uh being a little

555
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:20,400
obsessed so

556
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:21,520
she tells them to go to the doctor

557
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,640
you're obsessed and he asked his doctor

558
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:26,480
uh he asked the doc he goes doc have you

559
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,720
ever heard of near-death experiences and

560
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,400
he said the doctor's eyeballs popped out

561
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:32,960
and ray said i apologize doc you know

562
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:33,840
and she's like you don't need to

563
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:35,120
apologize

564
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:36,880
how did you know i had one which he

565
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:38,720
didn't uh same thing happened the next

566
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:40,559
day he repeated the same exact thing to

567
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:42,000
another person as if there was a voice

568
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,760
inside of him telling him what to say

569
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:45,039
same thing happened that person said

570
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:47,039
yeah i had an nde

571
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:48,400
uh

572
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:51,520
he said that person's father had an nde

573
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:53,360
and then

574
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:56,080
he told his own dad on the third day and

575
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:58,240
his dad told him about this powerful nde

576
00:24:01,510 --> 00:24:00,000
he had so it was three people three days

577
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:01,520
in a row that brought up their nds i

578
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:03,039
don't think i've ever met anybody who

579
00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:04,880
had an nde like a

580
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:07,520
a classic nde that you hear about in the

581
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:10,720
in the material material um

582
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:13,039
so he drove home and for the first time

583
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:14,880
he looked up in the sky and he talked to

584
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:17,520
god and then alan steinfeld jumps in and

585
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:20,000
says i had this abduction mark and then

586
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:21,919
ray hernandez butts in and says it's a

587
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:24,240
contact mark i thought that was rude i

588
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:25,039
mean

589
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,880
some people think it's abduction and if

590
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,240
they want to think it's abduction or

591
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:30,480
call that let them call it that allen

592
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,799
said i went to so many conferences back

593
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:35,039
then whitley would see me and say why

594
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,200
alan why are you here again

595
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:38,960
and allen says we get obsessed with this

596
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:40,400
greater mystery

597
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:42,080
but he thinks we're on the threshold of

598
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,720
something amazing

599
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:46,720
which is quite the opposite of what

600
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:49,440
richard dolan thinks which we'll get to

601
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:51,679
in the seventh hour

602
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:53,600
uh chris bledsoe says if i walk outside

603
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:55,279
the door i'm constantly thinking of the

604
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,799
connection they're like my kids i know

605
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:58,960
they're real because sometimes 10 to 15

606
00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:00,640
of them appear

607
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:02,880
i have hundreds of films of this

608
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,640
i ask a question and it appears in

609
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:06,000
flashes

610
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:07,760
but it was only like that after the lady

611
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,279
showed up

612
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:11,360
she gave him a bit a gift of the ability

613
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:13,360
to talk to them they know everything

614
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:14,720
you're going to say before you say it

615
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:16,480
and if you read john keel there are

616
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,159
people that talk about how they know

617
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:20,320
everything about us

618
00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:22,000
past present future doesn't matter

619
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:24,080
that's what people report

620
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:25,919
talked about chris talks about buying

621
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:27,919
this wood for wind chimes that he wanted

622
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:29,279
to give away and make them because

623
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,320
that's what he was doing in his wood

624
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:31,919
shop but it was too expensive so he put

625
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:33,440
the intention out

626
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:35,200
and the wood showed up in large amounts

627
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:36,720
and he goes

628
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:38,320
they did that

629
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:40,880
and he was told by a friend and uh

630
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,960
that friend may be

631
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,600
jim semivam so if if anybody's lucky

632
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,520
enough to interview semi-van you can ask

633
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:49,279
him this so he was told by a friend to

634
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:51,360
watch the adjustment bureau

635
00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:52,960
he goes that's how life is on this

636
00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:54,080
planet

637
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:56,159
i love that movie i hope that's how life

638
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:58,000
is but i don't know if i've had any help

639
00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,600
at all

640
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,520
um

641
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:03,840
i've had some trickster stuff happen uh

642
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:05,440
but

643
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:07,120
chris says he's uh someone who won't

644
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:08,320
take no for an answer and then he

645
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:12,400
mentions lori wagner a producer friend

646
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:13,679
i don't know if that's a producer

647
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,679
related to the he was talking about

648
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,120
something in television i have not

649
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:19,520
looked her up up yet on imdb somebody

650
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:22,240
could look her up laurie wagner uh so he

651
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:24,240
was out with lori and his wife and it

652
00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:25,520
was thunder and lightning and they were

653
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:26,799
disappointed they couldn't go out and

654
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:28,400
see something at the time so bledsoe

655
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,600
says well maybe we'll see something

656
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,919
different and then lori felt an energy

657
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:33,360
they walked outside and with a few

658
00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:35,200
minutes within a few minutes an orb

659
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:37,520
appeared it came right up to them eight

660
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,480
or nine orbs within 15 feet

661
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:42,880
my first question is i want to see video

662
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:48,870
this whole experience has transformed

663
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,440
his life and people around him the best

664
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:53,520
video he ever took was a few weeks ago

665
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:56,000
he turned the camera on 36 30 seconds

666
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:57,120
later

667
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:59,120
it appeared and then disappeared i don't

668
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:00,640
know if it was an orb i think most of

669
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:02,720
his stuff is an orb and he said thank

670
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:04,640
you

671
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:05,679
and he said it's only going to get

672
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,279
better one of them struck one of them

673
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:09,200
shot straight up one of them shot down

674
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:11,279
and then one of them shot sideways

675
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:12,559
and then whitley jumped in and said i

676
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:14,480
watched your your press conference on

677
00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:19,669
and he said something about the mojave

678
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:24,789
what was there about the mojave desert i

679
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,960
know there's a connection and i saw it

680
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:28,240
today

681
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:34,710
and what they said i have a reason to

682
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:37,440
think you're not pulling people's legs

683
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:40,000
and anjali said of course not

684
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:41,440
whitley said if you succeed it's going

685
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:43,840
to bring this into reality in a physical

686
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:47,039
way 33 millions of acres are on fire in

687
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,399
siberia

688
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,919
and that's going to change the climate

689
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:51,760
on this planet

690
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:54,799
so he ended up with a a reference to

691
00:28:02,230 --> 00:27:59,510
climate change global climate change and

692
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:02,240
the fires and mark sims jumps in jumps

693
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,760
in says i wouldn't be here if it wasn't

694
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:05,600
for tesh bar i've committed myself to

695
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:09,360
this it's my life purpose life's purpose

696
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:11,600
my previous jobs have helped me with

697
00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:14,480
this he did a lot of tech and

698
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:17,120
3d animation and gaming and now he's i'm

699
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:18,480
sure he had a big hand in the

700
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:21,120
observation deck uh the um virtual

701
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:23,440
reality world

702
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:24,880
that they hope the new paradigm

703
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:27,200
institute will be

704
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,080
in

705
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:30,799
and also hopefully a physical location

706
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,559
in northern california

707
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:34,159
mark says i feel like i was meant to do

708
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:35,520
this but you can't do it i can't do it

709
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,640
on my own

710
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,399
he says anjali you were presented to me

711
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,720
on a silver platter i went on pure

712
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:42,960
intuition as far as judging whether or

713
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:45,120
not she was legit or not and he said the

714
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:47,440
intuition said yes

715
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:49,600
he stumbled upon her one day when he was

716
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:51,120
on twitter and he's usually not on

717
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:52,880
twitter

718
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:55,600
so he took that as a sign

719
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,520
and anjali says

720
00:29:01,990 --> 00:28:59,440
the beings told me to remember why i was

721
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:02,000
here and prepare to transcend

722
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:04,480
had that message for for months

723
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:06,080
uh learning how to she's still learning

724
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:07,520
how to talk about this it's been a rough

725
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,039
couple of weeks because it hasn't been a

726
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:11,120
safe space to talk about this especially

727
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,679
on twitter reddit's worst but twitter

728
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:14,880
has not been friendly even if you don't

729
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:21,269
or ask questions respectfully

730
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:22,559
people have not some people have not

731
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:23,520
done that

732
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,440
whitley strieber 2021 is an important

733
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:27,279
year because if you add your age to the

734
00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:29,679
year you were born

735
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:31,039
i don't think i've done that but he says

736
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:34,080
it all comes out to 2021.

737
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:36,080
okay i don't know what that means but

738
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,600
i will try it

739
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:39,200
i need a calculator because i'm really

740
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:40,399
bad at math

741
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:42,159
just kidding

742
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:43,760
anjali says the beings told me we are

743
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,279
experiencing two different cycles

744
00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:47,840
converging first cycle is of birth and

745
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:49,039
rebirth

746
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:50,240
they say on this earth we are

747
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:51,600
consciousness placed and human

748
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:54,000
biotechnology bodies have a century

749
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:55,679
learning experience and that we can go

750
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:58,320
back to the source to become wisdom once

751
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:00,080
that happens the wisdom can be used

752
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:02,799
again and again

753
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:03,840
sounds like

754
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:06,399
reincarnation she didn't say that though

755
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,000
mark says i have received the same

756
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:10,080
message so you're dead on and then right

757
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:11,919
hernandez says this is happening now

758
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:13,120
because we're so close to

759
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,640
self-annihilation

760
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,320
i was taken outside of my body and

761
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:18,480
brought to another reality

762
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:20,320
where i was placed against this big

763
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,240
giant wheel and inside the wheel was all

764
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:24,720
of the contact modalities near-death

765
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,080
experiences obes etc

766
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:30,559
reality is information fields that we

767
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:35,029
and if you want to talk about

768
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:36,720
information fields i know there are more

769
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:38,960
people but thomas campbell who wrote the

770
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,240
theory of everything my big toe t-o-e

771
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:44,080
theory of everything

772
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:45,840
his lectures are on youtube i think

773
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:48,640
they're like 17 hours over three days

774
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,320
guy was there in the early days of the

775
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:52,559
monroe institute which i would have

776
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:53,760
loved to have been at the monroe

777
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:55,120
institute in the early days i'd love to

778
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:56,480
go there one day too

779
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:01,350
thomas campbell is his name physicist i

780
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:02,960
believe i think he believes we're in a

781
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:05,039
virtual reality and compare compares it

782
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:06,640
to one of those

783
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:08,000
i forget what the game is called it's

784
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:09,600
one of the video game really popular

785
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,200
video game

786
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:13,440
where you have lives and blah blah blah

787
00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:15,600
virtual reality world

788
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,720
he says

789
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,240
ray hernandez says reality is

790
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:20,559
information fields that we can tap into

791
00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:22,399
communication bridges through the

792
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:24,240
contact modalities

793
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:25,760
we're spiritual beings having a

794
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,919
temporary physical experience this is

795
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:30,000
not about ufos or ufology it's about

796
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:31,760
it's about an awakening it's being

797
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,279
orchestrated

798
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:35,039
and then chris says i agree with ray the

799
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:36,799
lady told me that weather was gonna get

800
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,120
bad i said this on jimmy church in 2019

801
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:42,960
yeah well i mean the weather's been

802
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:45,200
getting bad for a long time so i i

803
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:46,480
wouldn't really count that as a great

804
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:47,760
prediction

805
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:49,279
um he says

806
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,399
everybody needs to awaken

807
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:54,480
he says we need to awaken everybody in

808
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:56,960
unison to try to stop it if we can

809
00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,200
if we try he says we need to awaken

810
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:01,679
everybody in unison to try to stop it

811
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:05,360
and we can if we try and whitley said

812
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:06,799
first thing get practical there's no

813
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:08,480
such thing as supernatural and

814
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:11,279
paranormal only nature some parts we

815
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:13,120
understand in some parts we don't we're

816
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:14,720
in the process of meeting our own

817
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,399
consciousness and learning there are no

818
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:18,640
boundaries in consciousness journey is

819
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:21,120
to discover our own limitlessness

820
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,840
limitlessness limitlessness that we

821
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:25,440
share with everything and everyone in

822
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:26,880
the universe

823
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:28,799
and then anjali says that they explained

824
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:32,080
third density learning

825
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:33,600
has to do with the amount of light

826
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:35,600
consciousness and the coalescence of

827
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,480
light as one gains knowledge and wisdom

828
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:40,559
this is not the first third destiny that

829
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:42,559
we've cycled that we've been through on

830
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:44,080
earth

831
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:46,000
i do believe this planet has gone

832
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:48,799
through many upheavals and cycles but we

833
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:57,669
it says earth also goes through that

834
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:59,039
that change

835
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,720
we're now becoming a fourth destiny

836
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:02,399
consciousness

837
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:03,600
if you want to stay here you need to

838
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:05,519
raise your consciousness to fourth level

839
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,960
destiny

840
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,480
to me that sounds like the celestine

841
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,320
prophecy if you've ever read that read

842
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:12,559
it many years ago

843
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:14,559
gotta you gotta take it to the next

844
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:17,200
level gotta vibrate higher otherwise

845
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:19,120
not gonna be able to live here anymore

846
00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:20,960
she says how do we do that well we do

847
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,559
not recognize or understand the nature

848
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,960
of our own existence humanity doesn't

849
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:26,559
have the answers but seeks them with

850
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,760
humility you need to seek them with

851
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,840
humility and grace and kindness and with

852
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,440
the desire to better connect our

853
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:33,279
consciousness with a source

854
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,029
the creator of all that is

855
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:47,909
just just gonna check in on this

856
00:33:47,919 --> 00:33:56,470
let's make sure you still hear me

857
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:58,230
so better to connect with consciousness

858
00:34:02,070 --> 00:33:59,919
with source which is the creator of all

859
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:02,080
that is created it's a huge part of her

860
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:04,240
mission uh to be a catalyst to let

861
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,840
people know that this is an option and

862
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:07,120
that we're coming to the end of this

863
00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:09,280
cycle don't be afraid

864
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,440
understand the changes and what we can

865
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:13,040
and what we can and cannot change on

866
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:14,320
this planet as it goes through these

867
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:16,480
changes be willing to accept that we're

868
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,399
all connected through a singular source

869
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:20,399
of light consciousness that pervades

870
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,960
everything in existence we can manifest

871
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:24,240
but if we do it from a selfish

872
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:27,280
standpoint it can be destructive

873
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:29,520
sounds like wicca you know whatever you

874
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:33,280
do will come back to you three times

875
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:35,440
mark sim says there's a power in working

876
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:37,599
together we can all feel alone i felt

877
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:39,040
alone for the first five to six years

878
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:41,359
since 2012 went through a lot of

879
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:44,159
internal contact

880
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:46,000
he thought about should i give all of my

881
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,480
resources in life to do this to help

882
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:50,480
save the world and plan it

883
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:52,800
so it was nice and reassuring seeing

884
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:55,040
others with similar stories

885
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:56,800
anjali you nailed it when you said this

886
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:59,280
is a sensory sensory learning experience

887
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:00,880
i used to think consciousness is a

888
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:02,800
consequence of our physical chemistry

889
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:04,720
and died with the body but i have since

890
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:05,680
learned

891
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:07,119
that it doesn't

892
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:09,440
mark saw his grandfather as an orb in

893
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:12,160
2012 and had a conversation with him

894
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,720
bledsoe's orbs are family or helpers in

895
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:16,560
his opinion

896
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,400
astral beans angels whatever you want to

897
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:20,320
call them chris is a leader and an

898
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:21,760
evangelist

899
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:23,920
which probably not the best word for a

900
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:25,760
lot of people but chris is a leader and

901
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:28,480
an evangelist as in bringing good news

902
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,079
and mark says he sees himself as an

903
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:31,920
evangel evangelist

904
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:37,750
he was shown that they were worried

905
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:39,760
about the weather kept showing that

906
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:41,440
bringing it to his attention and then an

907
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:42,960
orb came down from the sky it was there

908
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:44,720
for 17 minutes but they wouldn't let him

909
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:46,240
film it and then it turned into a

910
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:48,079
translucent being

911
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,839
they're concerned about us awakening

912
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,839
anjali and whitley strieber said it

913
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:54,240
nature is everything entities white and

914
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,480
orange orbs that interact with us

915
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:58,640
communicate through nature hawks and

916
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:00,640
birds and animals the egyptians knew

917
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,560
this our collective consciousness

918
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,320
affects the planet in a positive and a

919
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,320
negative way right now it's negative if

920
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,640
we don't change our fear-based ways it

921
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:10,560
will get worse and people will starve as

922
00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:12,800
the weather causes havoc and whitley

923
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:14,240
jumps in he says we wrote about the

924
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:16,000
climate in the 80s

925
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:17,599
one of my favorite whitley streeters

926
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:20,880
books whitley schruber books and it's

927
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:23,280
fiction based on some fact called

928
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:25,040
nature's end

929
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,880
he said if you read it now you'll see a

930
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:28,320
lot of what they talked about in that

931
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:30,160
book and made soft predictions they're

932
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:31,599
happening everywhere now especially the

933
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:33,520
fires in california that does stand out

934
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:36,720
in the book and it was in the 80s

935
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:38,320
whitley predict the book predicted a

936
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:39,760
great drought that spread across the

937
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:42,240
midwest food shortages

938
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,839
and he says food shortages he believes

939
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:45,599
are a real danger

940
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,440
and then he talks about this book

941
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:49,200
the key where he talked about another

942
00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:50,720
one of my favorite books by him not

943
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:58,870
he met a man in toronto

944
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,400
in his hotel room

945
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,240
he thought it was the uh bellhop or the

946
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:04,960
the room service guy knocked came in and

947
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:06,480
he had this amazing conversation with

948
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:08,720
this person amazing and in

949
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:11,760
enigmatic in the individual

950
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:13,119
told them all this stuff and then

951
00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:14,480
whitley researched what he's what he

952
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:16,560
said decided to write the coming global

953
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:18,000
superstorm with art bell which was

954
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:19,760
condemned they went on the today show

955
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:21,520
with matt lauer matt laro was a little

956
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,599
snarky with them probably not he was a

957
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:25,200
little sarcastic with them you're not a

958
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:26,480
climatologist right you're not a

959
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:28,480
climatologist not a scientist not a

960
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:29,599
scientist

961
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:31,520
and they're both like no

962
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:32,960
and that's on youtube if you ever look

963
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:34,640
up today's show art bell whitley

964
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:36,560
streeper

965
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:38,960
whitley thinks the conditions

966
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:41,359
for how that super storm will unfold are

967
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:42,720
occurring now

968
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:44,160
he says all he can think of the children

969
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:45,839
he prays every night for the children

970
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:51,750
we are all here and he says that for the

971
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,960
children because of the world they're

972
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,480
gonna have to live in

973
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,000
when we're gone

974
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:58,560
he's probably like i'm probably 10 12

975
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:00,640
years older than me maybe maybe a little

976
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:01,920
older

977
00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:04,880
and he says whitley says we are a we

978
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,800
even those who are scary

979
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,880
and ray hernandez says ray hernandez

980
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:11,119
says the weather shows we are one and i

981
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,960
say that every time i talk to the ufo

982
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,880
field most of these

983
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:16,400
people and you follow your nuts and

984
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:18,400
bolts are totally clueless to the

985
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,040
consciousness aspect he's

986
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,680
he's really harsh and i i know people

987
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:25,440
have complained about that yeah there

988
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,960
are people in this field who are not

989
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:28,560
into consciousness i don't understand

990
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,480
not connecting it but

991
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,119
you know i'm not mad at them over it

992
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:35,760
uh i eventually i think they will see a

993
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,839
connection but you know we have to get

994
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,599
more evidence more scientists interested

995
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:41,599
in in the whole subject

996
00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:44,160
uh andy for nde folks the main message

997
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:46,240
is you need to learn how to love

998
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,400
mentions the 4 200 people on this free

999
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:50,400
server survey he says the majority of

1000
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:52,400
them would say the same thing we're all

1001
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:54,800
one no separation we need to learn how

1002
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:57,280
to love and become more spiritual

1003
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,839
that message comes through the

1004
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:01,520
and he talks about a new story he said

1005
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:02,560
he said he was going to come out of the

1006
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,480
closet with the story for three years he

1007
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:06,160
had contact with a physical being in

1008
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,560
front of him it was a real person and

1009
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:10,160
for three years he doubted that person

1010
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,599
was anything special whatever they were

1011
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:13,280
telling him he didn't say that he had

1012
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,960
the most amazing experiences were with

1013
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:16,800
this person smartest person he's ever

1014
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,760
met

1015
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:19,680
they were a human they skipped six

1016
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:21,040
grades in school

1017
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:23,440
sixth grades uh considered this person a

1018
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,520
master guru who gave him lots of lessons

1019
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,359
and information and that meeting

1020
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:29,440
occurred once a month and then more

1021
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:30,800
frequently

1022
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:34,240
he had told rey hey ray there's only

1023
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:36,320
two fundamental forces in physics not

1024
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:41,040
four uh physics of entropy through love

1025
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:43,280
the mission is of universal love for

1026
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:45,520
humans

1027
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:49,119
positive negative yin and yang

1028
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,079
and then

1029
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:52,000
the whole entropy thing is brought up he

1030
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,760
mentions thomas campbell the theory of

1031
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:55,520
everything my big toe which his books

1032
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:57,040
are massive

1033
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:59,440
and that's what campbell says we express

1034
00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:02,160
love and that gets rid of entropy which

1035
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:05,119
is what ray hernandez said

1036
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:06,960
that's our goal on this planet according

1037
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,800
to thomas campbell

1038
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,480
who apparently had out-of-body

1039
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:12,720
experiences at the same same time as as

1040
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,240
robert monroe

1041
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:16,240
i need to read that again

1042
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:18,240
trying to trying to confirm that it was

1043
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:20,240
a real thing because he had a scientific

1044
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:21,440
mind he's like i don't know if this is

1045
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,720
real or not either

1046
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:24,640
monroe didn't think either monroe

1047
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:47,990
give me one second

1048
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,670
at that when he was meeting with that

1049
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,599
guy he was still a hardcore materialist

1050
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,040
but at the end he got a message to go

1051
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,640
see chris bledsoe he got the message

1052
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:56,240
three days in a row

1053
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:57,520
called up chris and said i need to see

1054
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:59,119
you but chris bledsoe is like the house

1055
00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:01,119
is full you have to stay somewhere else

1056
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:02,400
so he did

1057
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:04,319
and ray said he needed validation

1058
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:06,000
regarding that human who was visiting

1059
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:06,640
him

1060
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,280
fundamental forces only two fundamental

1061
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:15,440
forces at that point all of rey's

1062
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,319
experiences with that person stopped

1063
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:20,480
and rey hernandez says we have to go

1064
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:21,920
beyond ufos and focus on the

1065
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:29,030
anjali says i have physically met with

1066
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:30,319
several different races they look

1067
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:32,880
nothing alike i've also met like beings

1068
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:34,800
it's as if the light is confined within

1069
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:36,960
them one light being

1070
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:39,440
she met was just a few months ago it was

1071
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:41,359
after her contact with her that she came

1072
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:43,280
forward with her experience so it was

1073
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:44,800
after her contact with that being that

1074
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:47,280
she came forward with her experience

1075
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,800
these beings are extremely kind and

1076
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:50,640
passionate and compassionate and not

1077
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:52,319
just in physical form but consciousness

1078
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,760
communication

1079
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:55,680
they're patient and forgiving remember

1080
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:57,440
that our perceptions of reality are

1081
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,119
tainted and they are here to help us

1082
00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:01,040
when we're ready to lift the veil

1083
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:02,480
they're here to help us it's a natural

1084
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:04,160
cycle of consciousness that they've been

1085
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,920
through they're absolutely there's

1086
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:07,839
absolutely nothing i fear

1087
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:09,839
but being a woman subjects her threats

1088
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:11,440
that you can't imagine whitley says yeah

1089
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:12,960
it's a problem with the ufo community

1090
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:16,079
for a long time has been that way the

1091
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:18,160
way women have been treated women one of

1092
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:19,440
women have

1093
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,960
coming forward

1094
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:24,960
and anjali says beings helped her see

1095
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:27,359
that the ones who are attacking her are

1096
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,400
afraid

1097
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,880
things they hold so tightly to in their

1098
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:32,960
reality that they identify themselves

1099
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,200
with will all come crashing down

1100
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:37,200
they tell me just to talk to people this

1101
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,319
is happening and they want a

1102
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,240
relationship with us not talking about

1103
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,920
deities talking about higher

1104
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:43,440
consciousness higher level of

1105
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:44,640
consciousness that she doesn't

1106
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:46,240
understand right now and doesn't want to

1107
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:47,680
put a label on

1108
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:49,200
it's helped her a lot in her life

1109
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,800
there's nothing to fear changes are

1110
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,480
coming

1111
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,720
but we can get through them

1112
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,880
nobody is forcing this

1113
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:58,720
these are naturally occurring changes in

1114
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,880
cycles on this planet and these beings

1115
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:02,720
will help us if we ask for help

1116
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:05,599
and whitley said we have to get past all

1117
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,720
of that physical non-physical world

1118
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:10,560
stuff because it's all one world

1119
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:18,790
i think i got the quote wrong

1120
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:25,430
matter is energy slowed down whitley

1121
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,280
says well we need to speed up we don't

1122
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,800
have a lot of time

1123
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:30,400
and anjali says the beings tell her

1124
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:32,720
everything is energy consciousness is

1125
00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:36,319
energy and that energy then

1126
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:38,640
manifests into matter

1127
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,880
and chris bledsoe says the lady whoever

1128
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:42,720
she is comes ahead

1129
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:44,640
she comes ahead of world changers she's

1130
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:47,119
come before in the past

1131
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:50,079
under different names different guises

1132
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,839
he put a prediction into a letter that

1133
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:53,599
made it to the pentagon

1134
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,040
he said a new knowledge will come to

1135
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,040
earth this woman the lady gave him an

1136
00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:59,200
alignment but no date but he says the

1137
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:01,599
alignment comes on the equinox of spring

1138
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:04,240
2026.

1139
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:06,000
and she is uh

1140
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:07,200
and chris wants to know is she

1141
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:08,800
predicting a shift in knowledge and

1142
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:11,359
humanity by then and then mark sims read

1143
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:13,520
a quote from teshbar our thoughts have

1144
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:15,760
power to manifest things

1145
00:44:20,349 --> 00:44:18,480
keep thinking positively

1146
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:20,359
so that's the end of the

1147
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:29,510
i don't know i don't know enough about

1148
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:31,040
bledsoe to tell you what he was

1149
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:41,430
i have

1150
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:43,190
started looking to looking into artie

1151
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,240
clock

1152
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:46,240
artie clark who works with experiencers

1153
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,640
who do not use hypnosis to recall their

1154
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,640
memories which is great

1155
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:53,040
and i want to look into that more

1156
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:55,040
yeah i think chris bledsoe mentioned the

1157
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:57,520
lady and compared it to what was

1158
00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:59,280
what the virgin mary that showed up at

1159
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,280
fatima or

1160
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:03,599
mother nature i mean if you read about

1161
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,200
ayahuasca all the people who have

1162
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:07,359
ayahuasca talk about female energy

1163
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:09,680
almost everybody has some sort of female

1164
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:15,829
my overall thoughts on the panel the

1165
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:17,920
panel was fine i mean this is not my

1166
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:20,000
this is not my focus i mean i definitely

1167
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:22,079
have an interest in experiencers

1168
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,950
what's up bug you just missed the

1169
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,640
experiencer panel i went i wanted to go

1170
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:30,800
through this but the best stuff i mean

1171
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,960
was the loop panel

1172
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:34,560
and lou's lecture

1173
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:35,440
and

1174
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,040
not that anybody else wasn't good but

1175
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:39,119
that was my favorite it just stood out i

1176
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:40,480
just love that stuff there are other

1177
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:43,359
people who do not like that stuff

1178
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:44,960
grant cameron he does not like that

1179
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:46,079
stuff he likes to focus on the

1180
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:47,760
consciousness aspect and i do like

1181
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:49,520
consciousness but i love this stuff too

1182
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,520
you can do both

1183
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:53,599
right i have to change

1184
00:46:02,870 --> 00:45:57,359
a plug here give me one second

1185
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:05,430
so now i can see

1186
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:07,200
the pictures and i'm really going to try

1187
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:10,000
my best to do this

1188
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:14,560
i have pictures and it's like

1189
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:18,240
today if i could use his slides

1190
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:20,160
of course i didn't

1191
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:32,150
all right let's go to my graphic

1192
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:34,550
i'm going in order william we'll get to

1193
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:35,599
this

1194
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:37,280
sorry i want to go in order

1195
00:46:40,829 --> 00:46:39,760
my notes are straight down

1196
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:40,839
all right

1197
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:42,640
so

1198
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:46,240
strieber's like i said one of my

1199
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:48,160
favorite books of his and it's

1200
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:49,760
fiction based on

1201
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:51,760
predictions that they made him and his

1202
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:58,069
written in the mid-80s i think it was

1203
00:47:03,430 --> 00:46:59,760
before i think it was before his

1204
00:47:08,829 --> 00:47:03,440
experience i'm not sure maybe 82 83.

1205
00:47:08,839 --> 00:47:16,630
richard dolan

1206
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:19,190
talked about

1207
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:21,200
starting off with

1208
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,839
creation of the cia after

1209
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:28,319
an independent air force

1210
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:30,160
after roswell

1211
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:31,839
a national security revolution that's

1212
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,480
what he calls that you know in 47

1213
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,480
media control

1214
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:38,480
unprecedented

1215
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:41,359
coordination between intel agencies

1216
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:43,839
which we thought were independent

1217
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:45,920
it mentions mockingbird which was the

1218
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,480
cia infiltrating the media he believes

1219
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:50,640
that hasn't gone away

1220
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,520
i know ross culthart thinks it has gone

1221
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:55,440
away now

1222
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:56,880
i think i asked him about that during

1223
00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,440
his interview and

1224
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:02,160
mentions cloak and gown which

1225
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:03,839
i'm not sure if that was an article or a

1226
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:06,240
book

1227
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,359
but

1228
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,680
it talked about the cia working

1229
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:11,520
you know with yale

1230
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:14,160
and other ivy lease ivy league schools

1231
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:24,069
and then early on

1232
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:26,160
you know they believed that ufos were

1233
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:28,240
intelligently intelligently controlled

1234
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:30,400
and of a highly advanced nature

1235
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:32,480
but they did not know who was behind

1236
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:33,599
them

1237
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:36,240
so richard's like

1238
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:39,599
did we have that tech in 1947

1239
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,910
and he mentions the horton brothers and

1240
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:49,760
they had designs that the germans worked

1241
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:53,200
on uh he mentions victor showburger

1242
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:54,640
he goes

1243
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:00,400
there's no evidence to back it up

1244
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:03,839
and he mentions these slides

1245
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:06,480
first this one is the infamous nathan

1246
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:08,240
twine in memo where the phenomena is

1247
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:09,839
something real

1248
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:11,920
and not imaginary back in september of

1249
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:19,910
and another twining memo

1250
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,839
i think these were fbi memos i'm not

1251
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:23,040
sure

1252
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,800
talking about extreme rates of climb

1253
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:26,640
maneuverability and action which must be

1254
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,190
the reported operating characteristics

1255
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:36,960
such an extreme rate of climb

1256
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:39,200
maneuverability particularly on role and

1257
00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:41,359
action which must be considered evasive

1258
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:43,520
when cited or contacted by friendly

1259
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,599
aircraft and radar

1260
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,280
lends belief to the possibility that

1261
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:49,040
some of the objects are controlled

1262
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:50,640
either manually automatically or

1263
00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:58,549
i believe this is from this might be the

1264
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:01,760
one from the fbi memo

1265
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:03,920
definitely not i'm not a i'm not a

1266
00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:06,319
strong document guy that's other people

1267
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:10,400
do that um so i'm sorry for that

1268
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:12,559
talking about back then uh metallic or

1269
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:18,790
circular or elliptical in shape flat on

1270
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:21,040
bobbin bottom domed on top and the point

1271
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:21,760
is

1272
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:23,200
even back then it was getting they were

1273
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:32,230
signing of an identical object

1274
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:35,200
by 30 people

1275
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:38,400
estimated at least 100 total sightings

1276
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:47,270
and he mentions how

1277
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,630
i have a note on this

1278
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,270
sorry

1279
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,109
i'm going to skip some of this

1280
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:00,870
mentions the fbi memo in 1949

1281
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:02,960
this matters con is considered top

1282
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,960
secret by intelligence officers of both

1283
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:07,200
the army and the air forces and

1284
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:09,280
he did not spend much time on history so

1285
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:17,589
and then he talks about the hanford

1286
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:22,710
where it says

1287
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,280
it talks about flying discs

1288
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:27,839
and since july 1950 objects round and

1289
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:31,040
form have been cited over the hanford

1290
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:33,200
plant these objects reportedly were

1291
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:35,520
above 15 000 feet in altitude air force

1292
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,280
jets attempted to intercept with

1293
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:39,119
negative results

1294
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:40,960
all units including the anti-aircraft

1295
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:43,520
battalion radar units air force fighter

1296
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:45,040
squadrons and the federal bureau of

1297
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:46,720
investigation have been alerted for

1298
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:48,720
further observation the atomic energy

1299
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:50,960
commission states that the investigation

1300
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:52,720
is continuing in complete deal details

1301
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:54,559
will be forwarded and

1302
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:56,480
and

1303
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:58,400
richard dolan says imagine if that memo

1304
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,319
had been released in 1950 instead of the

1305
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:02,000
late 70s you know

1306
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:03,440
how different would be things how

1307
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:05,760
different would things be today

1308
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,520
you know there's no details into the

1309
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,599
investigation into that memo

1310
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:11,359
uh the atomic energy commission later

1311
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:13,200
became the department of energy which is

1312
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,720
the most secretive agency in our

1313
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:16,640
government

1314
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:22,230
his favorite document to quote is the

1315
00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:25,280
chadwell document

1316
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:27,440
which is at this time reports of

1317
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:29,599
incidents convince us that something

1318
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:31,359
going on that we must have immediate

1319
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,480
attempt that must have immediate

1320
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,559
intention sightings of unexplained

1321
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:36,480
objects at great altitudes and traveling

1322
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:38,800
at high speeds in the vicinity of major

1323
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:40,960
u.s defense installations

1324
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:42,880
are of such nature that they are not

1325
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:44,960
attributable to natural phenomena or

1326
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:47,119
known types of aerial vehicles

1327
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:48,800
marshall chadwell assistant director of

1328
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:50,720
scientific intelligence

1329
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,440
to the cia director and

1330
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:55,359
richard dolan says that's his favorite

1331
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:57,440
document to quote from it's it's right

1332
00:53:01,670 --> 00:53:00,160
before the pan robertson panel he's

1333
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:01,680
basically saying they they're real and

1334
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,680
they possess extraordinary capabilities

1335
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:05,520
and they're hanging around our sensitive

1336
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,670
and then he talks about

1337
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:17,270
these cases and i believe this is

1338
00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:19,520
leonard stringfield

1339
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:22,160
leonard springfield wrote

1340
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,000
a lot of books about crash retrieval and

1341
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:26,400
richard dolan says he

1342
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:28,960
maybe investigated over 200 cases of

1343
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:32,319
alleged crash retrieval and

1344
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:35,839
it started in 1976 or so where

1345
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:37,119
people thought carter was going to

1346
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:39,280
release ufo information so

1347
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:41,040
springfield said a lot of people started

1348
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:42,960
contacting him

1349
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:45,280
and so he talks about there being a

1350
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:48,079
southwest retrieval in 57 four humanoid

1351
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,839
bodies recovered

1352
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:51,520
and the way this whole conference was

1353
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:53,040
set up you couldn't see the top corner

1354
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:54,640
so i don't see that word

1355
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:56,400
witness of nine alien bodies at

1356
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,280
wright-patterson air force base in 1966

1357
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:01,359
they were four feet tall

1358
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:02,559
this is this is all leonard

1359
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,079
springfield's research

1360
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:06,079
told there were 30 bodies at the base in

1361
00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:08,000
total imagine that we hear about you

1362
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:09,760
know i think when i think bodies i think

1363
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:11,280
a couple of bodies

1364
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:13,920
imagine 30 bases from at this one base

1365
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:15,920
from different crashes and you hear

1366
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:17,440
emery smith who i don't think is

1367
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,960
credible but he talks about all these

1368
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:20,880
autopsies or that he worked on with

1369
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:23,920
bodies and parts it's like

1370
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:26,400
you wonder maybe the truth and

1371
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,839
i don't even want to mention emory

1372
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:29,680
smith's name he's on gaia like i said i

1373
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,240
don't find him credible but 30 bodies at

1374
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:34,400
one base and maybe only one base is

1375
00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:36,079
where they're all maybe it's only 30 you

1376
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:38,160
know but look at these cases this is and

1377
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:39,920
i need to get stringfelt's book

1378
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,160
stringfield's book it's 80 i think all

1379
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:44,079
of his books compiled into one it's 80

1380
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:45,119
bucks

1381
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:50,309
stringfield was told that there was a

1382
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,720
craft at the base

1383
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,720
and at certain military bases mobile

1384
00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:56,640
units were in a constant ready state to

1385
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:58,640
recover down ufos

1386
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:00,960
a radar specialist at

1387
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:04,000
fort monmouth new jersey in 1953

1388
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:05,920
shown film of claims he was shown film

1389
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:08,319
of a crashed ufo in the desert interior

1390
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:10,880
of the craft dead aliens in a tent

1391
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,680
inside a tent no explain no explanation

1392
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:15,040
or debriefing

1393
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:16,480
there are several such stories like that

1394
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:19,280
from springfield that he learned of

1395
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:21,119
contractor of right at wright patterson

1396
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,119
air force base in the 60s saw seven

1397
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:25,920
alien bodies under conditions of extreme

1398
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:33,750
a former g2 air force officer in 1948

1399
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:36,079
saw a top secret manuscript about ufo

1400
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:38,079
crash in new mexico craft and bodies

1401
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:39,520
retrieved

1402
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:41,599
how many bodies do we have assuming this

1403
00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:43,200
is accurate

1404
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,559
um

1405
00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:46,480
bodies do come up later on a little bit

1406
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:48,400
that conversation was interesting

1407
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,799
a lieutenant lieutenant colonel

1408
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:52,480
discusses underground installation at

1409
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:53,520
fort hood

1410
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:55,680
and elsewhere with squadrons of unmarked

1411
00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:58,000
helicopters that are dispatched to areas

1412
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:00,960
of ufo activity including air lift

1413
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:06,470
uh interviewed several times by uh

1414
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:09,200
stringfield drx the autopsy claims he

1415
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:12,319
autopsied and tested alien bodies not

1416
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:16,000
the same as mr x with project unity this

1417
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:18,160
is dr x

1418
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:19,839
uh and it was at a medical facil

1419
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:22,000
facility in the eastern united states so

1420
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:24,240
the beings look for four foot tall 40

1421
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:25,760
pounds in weight

1422
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,520
large head

1423
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:29,680
heavy brow ridge round eyes with no

1424
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:30,960
pupils

1425
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,359
holes for ears tiny nose non-functional

1426
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:35,680
slit like mouth no lips or teeth

1427
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:38,880
a slender build long thin arms

1428
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:41,680
tan or grayish skin elastic and reptile

1429
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:43,680
like carlo

1430
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:46,160
elastic and reptile like tan or grayish

1431
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:49,040
skin colorless liquid prevalent in their

1432
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:51,200
body but no red blood cells no

1433
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:53,119
reproductive organs

1434
00:56:58,549 --> 00:56:55,119
they seemed clone like

1435
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,559
possibly androids which i think they are

1436
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:00,720
just an opinion

1437
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:02,880
and that is stringfeld's book all of his

1438
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:05,119
books put into one

1439
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:11,030
i think that's the last old case he

1440
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:18,549
so what if researchers learned

1441
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:20,480
it's real and they're here

1442
00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:22,240
countless military engagements through

1443
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:23,440
the decades

1444
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:25,520
even greater numbers of well-documented

1445
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:27,040
civilian cases

1446
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:28,480
a crash retrievals and other

1447
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,559
acquisitions of ufo tech acquisition of

1448
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:32,640
live beings and bodies massive and deep

1449
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,960
secrecy abductions and other forms of

1450
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:36,160
encounters

1451
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:38,319
they seem to be omnipresent omnipresent

1452
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:40,799
and very busy and then he asks is there

1453
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,079
a breakaway science breakaway

1454
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:44,720
civilization and that i'm not

1455
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:46,880
a big breakaway civilization person i

1456
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:49,359
mean i've i've spoken to people friends

1457
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:50,880
who are really interested in that and

1458
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:53,520
think we have this amazing technology

1459
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:55,599
and this person one of my friends who's

1460
00:58:01,589 --> 00:57:58,559
really smart believes that

1461
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:03,510
super soldier thing going to mars he

1462
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:07,200
believes that jump rooms it's like

1463
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,640
too much for me not that i have a

1464
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:10,400
problem intellectually with it i just

1465
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:12,079
don't see any evidence and it's hard

1466
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:13,760
enough to get this stuff looked at i

1467
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,160
mean the experiencer panel some people

1468
00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:18,400
will be you know turned off by that

1469
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:20,319
talk about jump rooms you know

1470
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:21,359
so

1471
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:26,160
the breakthrough in 2017 which is what

1472
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:28,960
got me back interested not

1473
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:30,720
i didn't lose interest but i wasn't

1474
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:34,160
focused on ufos i had started in 96

1475
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:36,799
stayed interested quit my job back down

1476
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:38,319
in tampa

1477
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:40,960
gave up a pension to write about ufos

1478
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:43,920
which probably shouldn't have done i was

1479
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,680
two years short of a pension

1480
00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:47,760
um so i started my own newsletter opened

1481
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:50,319
my news and then

1482
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,839
didn't make any money because i didn't

1483
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:53,440
push hard enough so i went back into

1484
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:54,960
television and started working at the

1485
00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:57,280
maury povich show which is

1486
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:58,960
we could do it we can do an ask me

1487
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:00,799
anything on maury povich which was my

1488
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:03,040
worst job ever in television

1489
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,400
so

1490
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:06,480
2017 happens i had heard about tom

1491
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,480
delong i'd heard some of his interviews

1492
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:10,319
and i was interested he's talking about

1493
00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:12,079
contacts he had and

1494
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:13,760
he claimed that and i put him at the top

1495
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:15,200
of my facebook so i could start reading

1496
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:17,119
his messages every day and then he said

1497
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:18,640
i know things that other people don't

1498
00:59:21,470 --> 00:59:19,839
and when i hear that it's always a

1499
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:21,480
turn-off so i

1500
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:23,680
un-linked him to the top of my facebook

1501
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:26,319
page lost interest a little and then

1502
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,359
october 2016 is when they had the ttsa

1503
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:31,119
press conference george knapp went on

1504
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,720
coast to coast had this really great

1505
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:34,559
intro i transcribed it put on my

1506
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:37,760
facebook so we're 2017 in new york times

1507
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:39,520
they say it's real we got military and

1508
00:59:43,829 --> 00:59:41,200
civilian sightings

1509
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:43,839
well that was leading up to 2017. uh

1510
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:45,280
richard dolan gives you it gives

1511
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:47,839
everybody advice

1512
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:49,599
take the time to educate yourself on the

1513
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:51,920
data he goes i can't do that in a 60

1514
00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:54,079
minute lecture don't dismiss the subject

1515
01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:59,910
so up to 2017 we're all thinking and i

1516
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:01,599
was thinking are we going to be spinning

1517
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:03,119
our wheels forever i thought we were

1518
01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:06,160
going to have disclosure in 2000 2000

1519
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:07,599
four years after i got into this and

1520
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:09,760
then new york times hits david fravor

1521
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,319
new york times bigelow

1522
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:14,480
finally the coverage is not snarky not

1523
01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:25,270
but you also have folks saying it's a

1524
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:28,480
ruse it's a false flag

1525
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:30,960
merch is an idiot

1526
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:34,079
i actually was on a panel in 2016 i

1527
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:35,599
think yeah it was

1528
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:38,160
after ttsa had their press conference or

1529
01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:39,920
non-press conference

1530
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:41,520
their event and before the new york

1531
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:43,680
times article came out and i was on with

1532
01:00:46,870 --> 01:00:45,200
mostly people who were negative about

1533
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:46,880
the long and they stayed negative mostly

1534
01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:48,240
throughout the time

1535
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:50,240
some of them got extremely extremely

1536
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:53,200
negative and extremely

1537
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,920
critical um trying to think of the word

1538
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:57,520
really really bad

1539
01:01:03,430 --> 01:00:59,520
like attacking

1540
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:05,510
dolan doesn't think this error effort is

1541
01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:10,079
a psy up or a false flag either do if

1542
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,789
so he thinks

1543
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:19,750
i think

1544
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:21,520
if there is somebody who really pushed

1545
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:25,359
this and i'm still 50 50 on that i think

1546
01:01:28,630 --> 01:01:27,520
as semivan said they they spoke to who

1547
01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:28,640
the higher-ups which i would like to

1548
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:30,240
know who those higher-ups were and they

1549
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:32,240
said listen we're going public with this

1550
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:34,079
this company and we're going to put out

1551
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:36,160
information not classified and those

1552
01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:38,000
people said all right you know and

1553
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:40,000
semiband said we'll we'll report back to

1554
01:01:43,589 --> 01:01:41,280
you you know

1555
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:43,599
let you know what we find

1556
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:45,280
so dolan

1557
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:46,640
and i agree with this things you know

1558
01:01:50,549 --> 01:01:48,240
we've heard this from lou we're dealing

1559
01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:50,559
with two forces one faction for whatever

1560
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:52,240
reason does not want this information

1561
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:52,960
out

1562
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:54,640
actually the one faction believes in

1563
01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:57,280
greater openness and

1564
01:02:02,470 --> 01:01:59,280
there's a larger faction that does not

1565
01:02:04,789 --> 01:02:02,480
want that they're not interested in that

1566
01:02:08,230 --> 01:02:04,799
and the faction is the positive faction

1567
01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:11,029
made up of bigelow

1568
01:02:21,510 --> 01:02:19,029
maybe kit green john alexander harry

1569
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:21,520
reid

1570
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:24,000
and then richard dolan talks about

1571
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:25,839
how bigelow funded the abduction

1572
01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:28,640
research in 1992 at harvard

1573
01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:30,880
and then started nids

1574
01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:32,160
and then

1575
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:35,119
paid to get reports from mufon

1576
01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:37,280
in in dolan's opinion put off is the

1577
01:02:44,230 --> 01:02:42,069
now

1578
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:44,240
the real establishment

1579
01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:46,799
it was amazing article by

1580
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:48,640
leslie kane and ralph blumenthal and

1581
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:50,240
helene cooper but

1582
01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:51,760
and i've noticed this too i was always

1583
01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:53,680
skeptical but new york times the rest of

1584
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:55,599
their new york times articles on ufos

1585
01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:56,960
since then

1586
01:03:00,630 --> 01:02:58,960
have gone back to their normal skeptical

1587
01:03:02,549 --> 01:03:00,640
selves and i mean there was one this

1588
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:02,559
year i think was by julian barnes it was

1589
01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:06,000
so it was horrible it was like really so

1590
01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:07,200
it seems like we're not going to get

1591
01:03:10,230 --> 01:03:08,880
great articles and he i know richard

1592
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:10,240
thinks it's

1593
01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:12,240
mockingbird but i don't know it might

1594
01:03:15,430 --> 01:03:13,520
just be those people are just so

1595
01:03:17,029 --> 01:03:15,440
close-minded

1596
01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:17,039
or they have connections to the people

1597
01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:18,799
in the world of defense who are not open

1598
01:03:22,150 --> 01:03:20,000
to disclosure and they want to make

1599
01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:22,160
those people happy with their articles i

1600
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:24,000
don't know

1601
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:25,680
but

1602
01:03:29,829 --> 01:03:27,520
the one thing i remember in that article

1603
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:29,839
that leslie keane and blumenthal put out

1604
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:31,280
and cooper

1605
01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:33,520
and richard dolan said

1606
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:34,960
that he thought they forced him to put

1607
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:36,400
some of this skeptical stuff in there

1608
01:03:41,589 --> 01:03:39,280
where it said remember ufo does not mean

1609
01:03:43,990 --> 01:03:41,599
extraterrestrial that was in the 2017

1610
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:44,000
december 16 article i was like really

1611
01:03:47,029 --> 01:03:45,760
you really needed to say that i mean

1612
01:03:48,630 --> 01:03:47,039
come on

1613
01:03:51,829 --> 01:03:48,640
and as far as establishment folks who

1614
01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:56,069
go back on camera

1615
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:58,549
i refer to my

1616
01:04:01,990 --> 01:04:00,160
interview

1617
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:02,000
i had with somebody who's in the wilson

1618
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:04,160
davis documents who asked me not to name

1619
01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:05,760
them

1620
01:04:09,910 --> 01:04:07,839
and i got this person's number and i

1621
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:09,920
called them which i really do not like

1622
01:04:14,069 --> 01:04:12,720
calling people cold like that his wife

1623
01:04:16,309 --> 01:04:14,079
answered

1624
01:04:18,549 --> 01:04:16,319
told him hey there's some guy reporter

1625
01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:18,559
from ufo from vegas i didn't say i was a

1626
01:04:26,549 --> 01:04:24,710
he gets on the phone i'm like

1627
01:04:27,670 --> 01:04:26,559
uh

1628
01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:27,680
do you want to talk about the wilson

1629
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:30,240
davis document he's like no

1630
01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:31,839
i'm like this phone call is going to end

1631
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:33,599
quickly but then he started talking

1632
01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:36,000
about ufos and that's on my wilson davis

1633
01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:38,559
blog i forget which part it is

1634
01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:40,319
i've been a decent long decent length

1635
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:42,799
conversation

1636
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:44,400
i won't go into all of it right now he

1637
01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:46,319
did say watch the movie paul he saw he

1638
01:04:49,750 --> 01:04:48,160
saw it twice he recommended it to me and

1639
01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:49,760
i was like is that a secret is that is

1640
01:04:54,549 --> 01:04:51,520
that what they look like

1641
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:54,559
uh i did watch paul and he says

1642
01:04:56,950 --> 01:04:55,920
he didn't want this information out

1643
01:04:59,109 --> 01:04:56,960
because he would he thought it would

1644
01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:59,119
bring down religion and cause all sorts

1645
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:01,280
of problems so i think that he's very

1646
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:02,880
religious

1647
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:04,880
um i think that is part of the

1648
01:05:08,470 --> 01:05:06,720
establishment that does not want us out

1649
01:05:11,670 --> 01:05:08,480
i don't think it's all religious but

1650
01:05:15,430 --> 01:05:13,190
and according to dolan's information

1651
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:15,440
there are senior pentagon establishment

1652
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:17,599
folks who did not want that information

1653
01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:19,760
out in 2017

1654
01:05:25,190 --> 01:05:23,520
and then he talks about fascism and how

1655
01:05:27,990 --> 01:05:25,200
it doesn't have to look like the brown

1656
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:28,000
shirts nazis marching through the street

1657
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:31,440
and the 1930s and there's a type of soft

1658
01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:33,839
fascism which is the ultimate glow the

1659
01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:35,599
ultimate goal of the people who run the

1660
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:36,720
world

1661
01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:44,390
so what's allowed as far as what to say

1662
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:46,960
about ufos in our society

1663
01:05:51,829 --> 01:05:48,720
you know 70 years ago it was blanket

1664
01:05:53,910 --> 01:05:51,839
denial new york times dismissed it

1665
01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:53,920
ultra arrogant looking down on us in the

1666
01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:56,720
ufo field and now it's okay for even

1667
01:06:00,789 --> 01:05:58,960
educated folks to look at this i mean

1668
01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:00,799
not totally but it's changed definitely

1669
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:02,319
changed and the military coverage has

1670
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:05,599
been amazing i mean media coverage

1671
01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:06,960
he doesn't think it would be credible

1672
01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:08,720
for them in the government to walk this

1673
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,680
back

1674
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:11,359
but he thinks it's manageable it

1675
01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:12,720
manageable if the president came out and

1676
01:06:16,150 --> 01:06:14,160
said you know what we made a mistake

1677
01:06:17,510 --> 01:06:16,160
this is all explainable the west coasts

1678
01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:17,520
their drones

1679
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:19,359
dolan doesn't believe that but others

1680
01:06:23,750 --> 01:06:21,359
have made the drone argument very hard

1681
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:23,760
they made their case their best

1682
01:06:31,589 --> 01:06:29,349
so

1683
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:31,599
how deep does this go and he has a long

1684
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:33,839
list

1685
01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:35,200
of things they could say before

1686
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:37,760
disclosure but that's not it

1687
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:40,160
darn it

1688
01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:48,160
but there's all things they could do to

1689
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:50,319
lead up to disclosure and not give us

1690
01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:53,119
the really good stuff

1691
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:55,839
he thinks you know

1692
01:07:01,349 --> 01:06:57,760
saying that we have craft and bodies is

1693
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:01,359
a major massive red line

1694
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:03,119
but they could say that

1695
01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:04,480
you know if they ever get to that point

1696
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:05,520
and talk about that i don't know if

1697
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:06,880
we'll ever see it in my lifetime but if

1698
01:07:09,750 --> 01:07:08,000
they do

1699
01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:09,760
they still can say yeah we have crafting

1700
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:11,200
bodies but we haven't figured out a

1701
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:13,359
thing and that theme will come up later

1702
01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:21,029
and he mentions you know are am i men in

1703
01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:22,559
black involved is there corporate

1704
01:07:27,029 --> 01:07:24,480
involved involvement you know if you

1705
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:27,039
look in the wilson davis notes and

1706
01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:29,440
men in black lou has mentioned his

1707
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:31,599
former close colleague

1708
01:07:35,829 --> 01:07:33,280
who believes there was a men in black

1709
01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:35,839
type organization intimidating people

1710
01:07:42,069 --> 01:07:37,920
and grabbing ufo data before anybody

1711
01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:43,430
can we get these admissions from the

1712
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:45,359
government is it likely will they ever

1713
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:47,039
walk it back

1714
01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:48,400
he doesn't think it'll be fun for the

1715
01:07:52,870 --> 01:07:51,119
government to admit admit it yes there's

1716
01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:52,880
been a cover-up for more than 70 years

1717
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:54,480
because we wanted to protect you from

1718
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:57,920
some very difficult truth truth

1719
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,880
if they admitted this cover-up

1720
01:08:04,630 --> 01:08:03,119
conspiracy wouldn't be a dirty word

1721
01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:04,640
anymore and he didn't say dirty word

1722
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:06,079
that's me

1723
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:07,920
you know fighting came out and said yes

1724
01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:10,480
ufo story was a cover-up but there are

1725
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:12,400
no other cover-ups

1726
01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,680
people wouldn't buy that it would open

1727
01:08:16,709 --> 01:08:15,440
the door pandora's box would be wide

1728
01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:16,719
open there's so many things like what

1729
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:18,159
did you lie to us what else did you lie

1730
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:20,400
to us about

1731
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:22,080
and he says the uap task force is

1732
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:24,159
limited limited to how much information

1733
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:25,359
they can collect

1734
01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:26,880
since they don't have the deepest

1735
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:28,400
clearances especially since they were

1736
01:08:32,229 --> 01:08:29,839
they replaced the top guy with somebody

1737
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:32,239
who had a lower rank that was in january

1738
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:33,440
they don't have the deepest clearances

1739
01:08:37,669 --> 01:08:35,199
for special access programs or need to

1740
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:37,679
know or access to legacy corporations

1741
01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:39,520
like lockheed

1742
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:42,799
richard calls it the legal illegality

1743
01:08:45,669 --> 01:08:44,640
and it's almost impossible to break

1744
01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:45,679
through

1745
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:47,520
unless your name is danny sheehan we'll

1746
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:53,990
situation there's a long-standing

1747
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:55,679
wide-ranging phenomenon that we don't

1748
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:58,159
understand and it exhibits amazing tech

1749
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:59,520
that has engaged the interest and

1750
01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:00,560
concern of the united states

1751
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:02,560
military-industrial community in other

1752
01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:04,480
countries around the world

1753
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:11,189
some conspiracy talk about and

1754
01:09:14,149 --> 01:09:12,480
i don't think richard thinks this is

1755
01:09:16,390 --> 01:09:14,159
conspiracy talk in my opinion it's

1756
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:16,400
conspiracy talk and maybe he's right but

1757
01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:18,000
he goes we're going through the most

1758
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:19,920
baby of baby steps of disclosure at the

1759
01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:22,000
same time they're monitoring us with 5g

1760
01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:23,679
and 6g on the way

1761
01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:25,279
control of information on google and

1762
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:28,319
youtube censorship mentions google's

1763
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:30,880
jigsaw with rand corporation

1764
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:32,640
and how the study concluded ufo groups

1765
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:35,279
are not that bad that was recent

1766
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:36,719
and then he talks about showtime and he

1767
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:38,719
says it's an exercise in disinformation

1768
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:41,120
and propaganda first two episodes were

1769
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:43,520
good final two are crap

1770
01:09:47,910 --> 01:09:45,520
uh they're making the argument that ufos

1771
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:47,920
were created as a myth to full soviets

1772
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:49,600
soviets and richard said there's no

1773
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:51,759
evidence for that

1774
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:54,000
uh richard thinks the showtime special

1775
01:09:57,910 --> 01:09:55,760
represents the preferred narrative by

1776
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:57,920
the folks who want this kept secret as

1777
01:10:02,870 --> 01:10:00,800
we go forward it's no different in 1997

1778
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:02,880
when the cia said the ufos people were

1779
01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:05,920
seeing were the ute youtube spy plane i

1780
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:08,239
remember that it's like yeah folks those

1781
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:09,600
were the youtube spy plane we just

1782
01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:10,880
couldn't say it at the time it was

1783
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:13,120
classified sorry we fooled you we had to

1784
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:14,800
say they were ufos because we wanted to

1785
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:16,480
cover up our technology

1786
01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:17,760
there are people who think that's still

1787
01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:19,840
going on now

1788
01:10:23,189 --> 01:10:21,840
i'm not one of them i'm not saying it

1789
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:23,199
doesn't happen at all but i don't think

1790
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:28,550
this is no different you know that's no

1791
01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:30,159
different than in the 1950s when the

1792
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:32,320
united states government was implying it

1793
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:35,120
was blaming you know ufos on secret tech

1794
01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:41,750
so how can we understand the beings that

1795
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:43,600
are physically here

1796
01:10:48,070 --> 01:10:45,760
covertly when we can't get transparency

1797
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:48,080
in our own system he mentions george

1798
01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:50,480
flyer who's does flyer files and this is

1799
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:53,120
still reports going all the time

1800
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:54,800
craft appearing over

1801
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,159
towns and stuff amazing sightings uh

1802
01:11:02,229 --> 01:11:00,320
george filer has done that forever and

1803
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,239
it's free online i'm not sure it used to

1804
01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:04,560
be it used to be an aim email list i

1805
01:11:07,910 --> 01:11:05,360
think

1806
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:07,920
email list put out

1807
01:11:12,149 --> 01:11:09,280
richard believes there's a massive

1808
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:12,159
presence of something that's here i

1809
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:13,920
don't know i don't know how what level

1810
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:16,080
the presence massive but

1811
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:18,000
all over the world i i think that's a

1812
01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:19,840
fair a

1813
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:23,360
and he says they're here it's secret and

1814
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:24,960
they're interacting with us what are

1815
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,560
their goals what are their motivations

1816
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:28,719
are we outmatched by them

1817
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:30,640
sometimes he thinks yes sometimes he

1818
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:32,320
thinks no but he still thinks there's

1819
01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:34,000
time to make a hope to make a

1820
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:35,040
breakthrough and open up these

1821
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:36,400
conversations

1822
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:37,840
and he just went through

1823
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:39,679
all the things that we experienced over

1824
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:42,400
the last three years the tts ttsa press

1825
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:43,520
conference

1826
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:46,480
uh the articles in the new york times

1827
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:49,120
the 38 scientific papers from the a-tip

1828
01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:50,320
program i thought that i think they're

1829
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:52,960
from the osap program i'm not i'm pretty

1830
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:54,719
sure that's from ossep

1831
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:56,880
and i think there were 15 000 for each

1832
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:58,560
paper

1833
01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:00,960
and then the bass ufo uap report

1834
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:02,719
released

1835
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:05,440
that was tim mcmillan and then put off

1836
01:12:09,590 --> 01:12:07,520
talking about metamaterials in las vegas

1837
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:09,600
las vegas lecture a couple of years ago

1838
01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:11,040
new york times article on the uss

1839
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:13,600
roosevelt ufo encounters navy releases

1840
01:12:17,910 --> 01:12:15,360
new guidelines on their pilots on how to

1841
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:17,920
report uap encounters elizondo on tucker

1842
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:19,840
carlson talking about

1843
01:12:27,030 --> 01:12:24,560
simply put yes we have debris from a ufo

1844
01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:27,040
uh wilson davis notes leaked davis

1845
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:28,640
wilson notes

1846
01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:31,120
uh pentagon navy acknowledges the ufo

1847
01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:32,640
videos trump said he heard some

1848
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:34,640
interesting things about ufos i think he

1849
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:35,679
might have said he heard some

1850
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:37,120
interesting things about roswell

1851
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:39,120
although i think he was talking about he

1852
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:41,600
meant area 51. new york times article

1853
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:43,360
that nearly discusses ufo crash

1854
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:45,520
retrievals that was last summer

1855
01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:46,400
uh

1856
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:47,360
then we have the announcement and

1857
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:49,760
funding of the uap task force which i

1858
01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:51,360
remember how excited it was and then

1859
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:52,719
this year

1860
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:55,600
more articles on navy encounters

1861
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:57,360
and the west coast events with jeremy

1862
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:59,120
corbell east coast events with george

1863
01:13:03,350 --> 01:13:00,800
knapp the pictures

1864
01:13:05,669 --> 01:13:03,360
and then they leaked those images

1865
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:05,679
the videos linked to george george knapp

1866
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:06,960
and corbell and then the new york

1867
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:09,199
article where they discuss lockheed and

1868
01:13:13,030 --> 01:13:11,360
senator harry reid and ufos and then 60

1869
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:13,040
minutes episode on

1870
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:15,360
ufos

1871
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,360
and that was the preliminary assessment

1872
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:21,120
those are the two forces okay so these

1873
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:27,910
i'm i'll go through these quickly just

1874
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:29,600
so you can see the slides same stuff

1875
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,430
factoring pushing pushing for this and

1876
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,120
the core group is bigelow reed put off

1877
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:39,679
davis elizondo melon de long nap keen

1878
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:41,600
blumenthal and they have allies and

1879
01:13:44,830 --> 01:13:43,679
sympathizers like tucker carlson some

1880
01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:44,840
other ufo

1881
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:48,159
researchers i would consider myself

1882
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:50,480
an ally but i am not afraid to criticize

1883
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:51,920
them which i have done in the past and

1884
01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:53,440
when i do it i get

1885
01:14:03,669 --> 01:14:01,590
i'm just going to go through these um

1886
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:03,679
the real establishment is different than

1887
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:10,709
and the late mark mccandlish was

1888
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:13,120
terrified of these people

1889
01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:20,070
this is what he thinks that the

1890
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:23,120
establishment wants

1891
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:31,270
the red line speaking

1892
01:14:35,590 --> 01:14:33,600
sorry i rushed to finally get this and i

1893
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:35,600
didn't realize i had these slides too

1894
01:14:40,149 --> 01:14:37,199
but

1895
01:14:41,350 --> 01:14:40,159
the best is yet to come with

1896
01:14:42,790 --> 01:14:41,360
blumenthal

1897
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:42,800
lou and then the panel and then we still

1898
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:44,640
have marshalls marshalls

1899
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:46,400
summers holy mackerel we've got so much

1900
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,950
we're in a strange position weird in

1901
01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:56,719
between stage emissions have come from

1902
01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:58,880
official sources the navy not from the

1903
01:15:03,110 --> 01:15:00,560
president so like they said they have

1904
01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:03,120
room to back it walk it back

1905
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:05,360
still no confirmation that uap are

1906
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:07,520
definitely unexplained and skeptics

1907
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:09,199
still make the case for the russian and

1908
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:15,189
don't think i said all these we can go

1909
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:17,280
these uh we have lately had quite a few

1910
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:19,600
encounters with these things

1911
01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:21,600
don't know why the encounters seem to be

1912
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:24,159
increasing as far as military encounters

1913
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:26,239
we have studied some unusual artifacts

1914
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:28,480
but have no conclusions some ufos may

1915
01:15:31,990 --> 01:15:29,920
have come from elsewhere but we do not

1916
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:32,000
know anything about them we have known

1917
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:33,440
something about this for a long time but

1918
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:34,320
it's been

1919
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:36,880
kept quiet to avoid panic that's what we

1920
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:38,800
hear we've secretly had military

1921
01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:40,320
encounters for years but still don't

1922
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:42,239
know but still know very little we

1923
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:44,000
secretly tried studying this for years

1924
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:46,640
but with little progress we've recovered

1925
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:48,480
craft and or bodies but with little

1926
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:50,560
progress long-standing cover-up in the

1927
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:53,040
name of public safety extreme secrecy

1928
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:54,560
men in black corporate involvement

1929
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,640
corruption of our institutions dogs and

1930
01:16:00,630 --> 01:15:58,719
cats living together

1931
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:00,640
admission of major breakthroughs

1932
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:02,480
admission that we finally actually have

1933
01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:05,280
learned a lot about them

1934
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:06,960
yeah that's later on so these are the

1935
01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:09,040
steps we would go through

1936
01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:10,159
before

1937
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:12,880
we had disclosure

1938
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:14,320
so admission that we actually have

1939
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:17,440
learned a lot about them

1940
01:16:21,110 --> 01:16:19,440
oh i don't see that coming anytime soon

1941
01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:21,120
and i don't think he does either an

1942
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:22,719
admission that abductions are real

1943
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:24,560
recognition that consciousness is a

1944
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:25,920
great important importance in this

1945
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:27,440
phenomenon

1946
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:28,880
these are the threat towards the red

1947
01:16:32,229 --> 01:16:30,400
line admission that one or more groups

1948
01:16:35,510 --> 01:16:32,239
have infiltrated or monitored or

1949
01:16:37,510 --> 01:16:35,520
manipulated us meaning non-human groups

1950
01:16:39,669 --> 01:16:37,520
they are walking among us and deeply

1951
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:39,679
embedded in our society yeah imagine

1952
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:41,920
that announcement being made

1953
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:51,669
can they be made or will they be walked

1954
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:52,719
back

1955
01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:59,830
and that's the the government

1956
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:01,600
investigative body which is the uap task

1957
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:03,280
force does not have access to that

1958
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:04,880
information which we talked about

1959
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:06,080
earlier

1960
01:17:08,870 --> 01:17:07,199
and those companies are not going to

1961
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:08,880
give up that information

1962
01:17:16,550 --> 01:17:10,880
but you'll see danny sheen is very

1963
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:18,550
so melon melon had this to say about

1964
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:20,000
when he was asked and he's come a long

1965
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:20,800
way on

1966
01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:23,520
crash retrievals i i documented what he

1967
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:26,560
said back in 2007 16 all the way up to

1968
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:28,880
recent interviews i don't have every one

1969
01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:30,960
of his interviews i don't have his

1970
01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:33,360
rogan or his terry

1971
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:35,679
wurtz interview but you know he was

1972
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:38,719
pretty skeptical back then

1973
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:39,760
i think he was even he was even

1974
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:41,440
skeptical that there was a hidden ufo

1975
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:43,679
program he didn't know about atip

1976
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:46,239
he was interviewed in 2017 16 by leslie

1977
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:48,719
keane and martin willis on ufo podcast

1978
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:50,400
and he said

1979
01:17:53,510 --> 01:17:51,760
i will say this

1980
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:53,520
if it were me and i were trying to bury

1981
01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:55,440
it deep and i have this quote in my

1982
01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:56,840
wilson

1983
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:59,440
davis mega blog

1984
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:01,040
i will say this if it were me and i

1985
01:18:04,149 --> 01:18:02,719
would trying to bury it deep i'd take it

1986
01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:04,159
outside to government

1987
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:06,080
oversight entirely and place it in a

1988
01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:08,000
compartment as a new entity within an

1989
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:10,560
existing defense company or manage it as

1990
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:13,440
what we call an irod or irad or an

1991
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:15,120
independent research and development

1992
01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:20,229
and richard asks could most ufo reverse

1993
01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:22,560
engineering be taking place in irad's

1994
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:24,400
today well

1995
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:26,800
i was told that the crash retrieval

1996
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:29,520
program is hidden using some sort of

1997
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,360
shell company trick where it's

1998
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:33,360
impossible to find unless you know where

1999
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:35,040
to look and that's why

2000
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:36,400
melon did not know where to look until

2001
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:37,600
he was told

2002
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:39,440
uh harry reid learned where to look you

2003
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:40,880
know they're not taught you know when

2004
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:42,719
they're on the special access program

2005
01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:45,199
oversight committee which as mellon said

2006
01:18:49,189 --> 01:18:47,360
in theory when they're part of the gang

2007
01:18:51,189 --> 01:18:49,199
of eight also in theory they should have

2008
01:18:52,709 --> 01:18:51,199
access to that information but they

2009
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:52,719
don't there's certain things they do not

2010
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:54,880
have access to

2011
01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:56,480
like i said in theory and he said they

2012
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:59,600
should they don't though

2013
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:01,440
and then he talks about rant study

2014
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:03,280
looking in you know

2015
01:19:08,950 --> 01:19:05,679
this is some conspiracy stuff that i

2016
01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:08,960
mentioned earlier

2017
01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:14,149
the article what their conclusion was

2018
01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:16,239
and that ufo groups really aren't that

2019
01:19:20,310 --> 01:19:17,600
bad

2020
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:20,320
so this is

2021
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:22,640
marshall summers

2022
01:19:25,750 --> 01:19:23,600
but

2023
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:25,760
i'm gonna go to lou first

2024
01:19:29,350 --> 01:19:27,840
but let me finish

2025
01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:29,360
the last

2026
01:19:40,149 --> 01:19:36,709
oh shoot all that time i did not have my

2027
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:42,070
i'm not going to go through them again

2028
01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:43,840
that is my fault

2029
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:46,159
darn it

2030
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:48,480
all right so we'll go for lou uh well

2031
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:50,159
end with dolan dolan says lots of

2032
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:51,760
problems in our world but ufo disclosure

2033
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:54,159
can bro provide a unique solution if

2034
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:56,159
this comes out and we find out we've

2035
01:19:59,350 --> 01:19:57,840
been lied to for so long it might be a

2036
01:20:01,189 --> 01:19:59,360
major transformative thing and

2037
01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:01,199
mind-blowing enough where people may

2038
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:02,640
wonder holy what else have they

2039
01:20:08,229 --> 01:20:04,960
lied about it might start an outbreak of

2040
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:08,239
truth but not utopian we need truth

2041
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:11,280
okay and then we get to lou

2042
01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:12,880
lou said he was awake he was awake for

2043
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:15,440
44 hours uh

2044
01:20:21,189 --> 01:20:17,280
because he got caught up in this denver

2045
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:23,510
so i took really good notes for lou it's

2046
01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:32,070
so he said he was going to share his

2047
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:33,600
insight instead of lecture he doesn't

2048
01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:35,440
like the lecture

2049
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:37,920
not really a lecturing kind of guy

2050
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:39,600
he said first off

2051
01:20:44,950 --> 01:20:42,000
i am not being paid

2052
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:44,960
people were saying i'm getting paid and

2053
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:46,800
i'm charging for my services he's like

2054
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:49,280
no he goes i try to do every engagement

2055
01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:51,920
that i can it's important to remain as

2056
01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:54,320
open and available as possible sometimes

2057
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:55,600
i can't do it

2058
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:57,280
uh he's always been committed to pursuit

2059
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:59,440
of the truth and the truth self shall

2060
01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:01,600
set you free

2061
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:04,080
he said it was an interesting lecture by

2062
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:05,600
mr dolan

2063
01:21:09,910 --> 01:21:07,760
i think he said you can't have freedom

2064
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:09,920
without truth

2065
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:12,320
well truth and freedom go hand in hand

2066
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:14,400
you can't have a free society without

2067
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:15,360
having

2068
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:17,440
a society that understands the truth

2069
01:21:22,470 --> 01:21:19,520
about themselves

2070
01:21:28,149 --> 01:21:25,189
i want to add a great a graphic

2071
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:28,159
that talks about

2072
01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:30,400
how i'm talking people if they join now

2073
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,990
lou

2074
01:21:42,629 --> 01:21:39,270
give me one second lu elizondo

2075
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:42,639
shoot i can't talk like this

2076
01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:45,040
lecture there we go sorry

2077
01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:47,520
talking about is on the lecture

2078
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:54,830
all

2079
01:22:05,189 --> 01:21:56,560
right

2080
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:06,790
can't have a free society without having

2081
01:22:10,629 --> 01:22:08,719
a society a society that understands the

2082
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:10,639
truth about themselves

2083
01:22:14,550 --> 01:22:12,800
truth about their country truth about

2084
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:14,560
history and the truth about where we're

2085
01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:16,400
going

2086
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:18,880
lou says my opinions are mine don't

2087
01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:20,480
anybody think that his opinions are

2088
01:22:24,149 --> 01:22:22,719
necessarily shared by anybody else

2089
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:24,159
including the panel members or

2090
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:26,800
organizers and vice versa and that's

2091
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:28,080
okay

2092
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:30,080
it's what real conversation and dialogue

2093
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:31,440
is all about we can all agree to

2094
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,560
disagree

2095
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:34,080
that's what separates adults from

2096
01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:36,560
children on the playground we have an

2097
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:38,800
elevated intellectual conversation about

2098
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:40,800
things and at the end of the day we can

2099
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:42,080
all walk away with our different

2100
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:43,760
perspectives

2101
01:22:48,550 --> 01:22:46,000
the theme of his lecture

2102
01:22:51,189 --> 01:22:48,560
it's the nosher notion of yesterday

2103
01:22:53,750 --> 01:22:51,199
today and tomorrow as it relates to uap

2104
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:53,760
to the uap topic

2105
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:56,400
a yesterday history

2106
01:22:59,750 --> 01:22:57,920
lou says he's the least qualified to

2107
01:23:02,149 --> 01:22:59,760
talk about history others on this panel

2108
01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:02,159
like dolan are much better at that

2109
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,639
lew was focused on other aspects of up

2110
01:23:08,709 --> 01:23:06,719
uap while he was in atip

2111
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:08,719
he mentions dolan and says tomorrow is

2112
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:10,159
the most important question because

2113
01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:12,880
dolan thinks tomorrow is pretty dark

2114
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:15,120
yesterday is also important but where we

2115
01:23:18,390 --> 01:23:16,960
will be in the next three to five years

2116
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:18,400
is ultimately

2117
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:20,400
ultimately why we're having these

2118
01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:26,550
and he talks about yesterday from a

2119
01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:28,639
national security perspective and a

2120
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:30,639
perspective and apologizes if he misses

2121
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:32,800
important pieces that are relevant just

2122
01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:34,320
like i apologize for not going to my

2123
01:23:38,229 --> 01:23:35,679
slides when i thought they were they

2124
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:38,239
were up damn it

2125
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:40,320
he says yesterday the circle the social

2126
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:42,400
psyche

2127
01:23:47,030 --> 01:23:45,280
we're experiencing uh uap phenomena well

2128
01:23:48,550 --> 01:23:47,040
most will agree

2129
01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:48,560
a lot of the interest that we're

2130
01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:51,040
experiencing now began in the 40s due to

2131
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:53,199
the roswell incident

2132
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:55,199
that started a conversation

2133
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:57,040
where we were engaged

2134
01:24:01,270 --> 01:23:59,679
where were we engaged in back then we

2135
01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:01,280
were on the heels of world war ii

2136
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:03,360
entering a new jet age you know that was

2137
01:24:07,669 --> 01:24:05,120
revolutionary anywhere in the world in

2138
01:24:09,590 --> 01:24:07,679
24 hours then you had the atomic age

2139
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:09,600
unlocked secrets of the atom that

2140
01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:11,600
revolutionized mankind for better or

2141
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:14,480
worse nuclear energy and independence

2142
01:24:18,629 --> 01:24:17,120
from fossil fuels in theory

2143
01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:18,639
and most destructive but the most

2144
01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:20,480
destructive weapons on the planet and

2145
01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:22,719
then we were entering the space age and

2146
01:24:27,430 --> 01:24:25,120
the global space race

2147
01:24:28,870 --> 01:24:27,440
we were the first in space and the m and

2148
01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:28,880
who wanted the you know we were in a

2149
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:30,560
competition for the first in space and

2150
01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:37,270
now we conquered the land

2151
01:24:42,070 --> 01:24:39,760
and dominated land for millennia and

2152
01:24:44,229 --> 01:24:42,080
then we conquered our oceans

2153
01:24:47,189 --> 01:24:44,239
thanks to the phoenicians

2154
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:47,199
but it had but we had nowhere else to go

2155
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:48,719
we were stuck on this planet and then we

2156
01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:51,040
had air travel but that still limited us

2157
01:24:56,709 --> 01:24:54,239
to the atmosphere but space

2158
01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:56,719
once we had that 99 of the universe

2159
01:25:01,030 --> 01:24:58,960
opened up to us it happened almost

2160
01:25:03,350 --> 01:25:01,040
overnight so what was going on in our

2161
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:03,360
country at the time we were evolving

2162
01:25:07,350 --> 01:25:05,360
sociologically which is not easy it's

2163
01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:07,360
like a crab molting its shell the shell

2164
01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:09,440
protects it but it also keeps it from

2165
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:11,600
growing and when it molds that

2166
01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:13,360
shell it's painful that's what we're

2167
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:15,120
dealing with right now

2168
01:25:18,390 --> 01:25:17,280
we were dealing with student riots back

2169
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:18,400
then

2170
01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:20,560
separate but equal or african americans

2171
01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:22,560
were in separate bathrooms restaurants

2172
01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:24,080
rosa parks had to go to the back of the

2173
01:25:27,910 --> 01:25:26,000
bus african-americans

2174
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:27,920
women started to have a voice and used

2175
01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:30,719
it the korean war vietnam and the music

2176
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:33,040
that captured that emotion

2177
01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:35,040
that inspired and moved a lot of people

2178
01:25:39,189 --> 01:25:37,679
at the time ufos were there why is that

2179
01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:39,199
important well at the time we were

2180
01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:40,800
dealing with real threats from other

2181
01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:43,040
countries it was an us versus them

2182
01:25:47,750 --> 01:25:45,600
mentality it was competition

2183
01:25:50,070 --> 01:25:47,760
imagine being in the air force and some

2184
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:50,080
guy says hey boss we're getting reports

2185
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,360
of ufos

2186
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,880
but they're hostile

2187
01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:55,199
and they don't seem to be ours well the

2188
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:57,440
general says is it russian the guy's

2189
01:26:01,669 --> 01:26:00,320
like no the general says whose is it the

2190
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,679
guy says i have no idea but we're

2191
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:03,600
collecting data and facts and the

2192
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:05,280
general says don't bother me until you

2193
01:26:09,510 --> 01:26:07,360
figure it out i'm interested but i have

2194
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:09,520
other issues that deal with the real

2195
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:12,880
threat remember this was the cold war

2196
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,719
so lou had some of the same questions

2197
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:16,239
not so long ago

2198
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:17,760
he thinks we're still dealing with that

2199
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:20,320
mindset with senior leadership where you

2200
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:21,920
know bother me when you have something

2201
01:26:27,189 --> 01:26:25,440
to tell me about what we're dealing with

2202
01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:27,199
he said this doesn't get a lot of

2203
01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:28,480
attention it didn't get a lot of

2204
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,560
attention and resources and funding

2205
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:32,159
because of that

2206
01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:33,280
because they're you know they don't know

2207
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:34,239
what we're dealing with and they don't

2208
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:35,520
want to they don't want to be bothered

2209
01:26:38,149 --> 01:26:37,280
until we give them something

2210
01:26:40,229 --> 01:26:38,159
but

2211
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:40,239
you know we do think some of these

2212
01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:41,920
people do know what we're dealing with

2213
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:48,950
is it possible there's a secret effort

2214
01:26:52,709 --> 01:26:50,480
underway

2215
01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:52,719
that knew a lot more than atip

2216
01:26:55,910 --> 01:26:54,400
it's possible

2217
01:26:57,510 --> 01:26:55,920
does it but there's a difference between

2218
01:27:02,550 --> 01:26:57,520
studying something

2219
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:04,790
lou was confident we were studying and

2220
01:27:09,830 --> 01:27:07,440
trying hard to figure this enigma out to

2221
01:27:11,669 --> 01:27:09,840
include the potential of retrieving hard

2222
01:27:13,030 --> 01:27:11,679
evidence

2223
01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:13,040
back then did we even have the

2224
01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:15,199
technological capability to really

2225
01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:17,199
understand it do we have the technical

2226
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:19,760
capability to understand it now

2227
01:27:23,189 --> 01:27:21,840
well this is me talking according to

2228
01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:23,199
eric davis if you listen to his

2229
01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:24,800
interviews no

2230
01:27:30,310 --> 01:27:27,040
we got stuck in 89 and that was the last

2231
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:30,320
time we we rolled out that technology

2232
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:33,040
um

2233
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:34,480
some people don't believe that some

2234
01:27:38,229 --> 01:27:36,159
people do believe that

2235
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:38,239
i

2236
01:27:51,350 --> 01:27:49,280
so lugos you know there's

2237
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:51,360
there's new tech in space new weapons in

2238
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:52,400
space

2239
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:54,000
he mentions this

2240
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:56,880
a headline this morning

2241
01:28:00,629 --> 01:27:59,360
which i can find for you in a second let

2242
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:00,639
me see

2243
01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:02,800
there's an article that came out

2244
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:04,800
i think it was today what i'll i can

2245
01:28:08,229 --> 01:28:06,800
link it in the in the notes afterwards

2246
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:08,239
but he says there's a headline this

2247
01:28:11,270 --> 01:28:09,920
morning he goes i don't want to pine

2248
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:11,280
about it right now but there are people

2249
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:12,880
in the joint chiefs of staff and you can

2250
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:15,120
google this who are trying very hard to

2251
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:16,960
reveal this information to the american

2252
01:28:19,510 --> 01:28:17,840
people

2253
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:19,520
by this information i think he's think

2254
01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:21,760
saying the information in the article

2255
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:24,000
uh and he says there's a reason for that

2256
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:25,120
i'm not sure if there's some hidden

2257
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:27,120
messages message there

2258
01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:28,639
but he says

2259
01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:30,320
uh we want to remind people in the world

2260
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:31,840
that we do have a technological

2261
01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:33,600
advantage and dominance in certain

2262
01:28:36,870 --> 01:28:35,199
domains so that's the reason that's the

2263
01:28:38,709 --> 01:28:36,880
reason they want this technology out

2264
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:38,719
that that's in this article

2265
01:28:41,830 --> 01:28:40,320
if you type in weapons in space and

2266
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:41,840
joint chiefs of staff you will find the

2267
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:46,790
so we want to let the rest of the world

2268
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:48,400
know we have this technological

2269
01:28:52,149 --> 01:28:49,600
advantage and dominance in certain

2270
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:52,159
domains in this case space so a

2271
01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:53,280
conundrum

2272
01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:54,880
do you announce to the world and your

2273
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:57,040
enemies that there's a capability ufos

2274
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:59,040
that exist that you don't know what it

2275
01:29:02,229 --> 01:29:01,040
is and there's not much you can do about

2276
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:02,239
it right now

2277
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:05,360
what if this was russian well now you've

2278
01:29:09,830 --> 01:29:07,280
just told the russians that you can't do

2279
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:09,840
anything about it

2280
01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:12,080
may have been why that path was taken

2281
01:29:16,550 --> 01:29:13,920
back then you know don't say anything

2282
01:29:18,310 --> 01:29:16,560
don't acknowledge it you know and a no

2283
01:29:21,270 --> 01:29:18,320
for the record and know for the record

2284
01:29:23,669 --> 01:29:21,280
he does not think ufos are russian

2285
01:29:26,310 --> 01:29:23,679
1960s it wasn't until the russians shot

2286
01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:26,320
down the u2 that they admitted we were

2287
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:28,000
flying over their country

2288
01:29:31,510 --> 01:29:29,520
you know and they couldn't do anything

2289
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:31,520
about it so basically yeah they wouldn't

2290
01:29:34,629 --> 01:29:32,880
say anything and once they shot one of

2291
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:34,639
our youtubes down then they paraded it

2292
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:36,000
around said look

2293
01:29:38,870 --> 01:29:37,440
but before they didn't want to tell

2294
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:38,880
anybody because they didn't want to

2295
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:40,400
admit that we were able to do that he's

2296
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:42,880
making that an analogy to ufos flying

2297
01:29:45,669 --> 01:29:44,719
over our country we don't want to admit

2298
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:45,679
it

2299
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:50,080
usa human

2300
01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:51,840
thoughts versus a non-human thought we

2301
01:29:55,830 --> 01:29:53,120
have no idea

2302
01:29:57,189 --> 01:29:55,840
you know what they think how they think

2303
01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:57,199
but he says the government is paid to

2304
01:30:00,629 --> 01:29:59,040
have solutions if not the people will

2305
01:30:02,629 --> 01:30:00,639
lose faith in them

2306
01:30:04,229 --> 01:30:02,639
faith in them

2307
01:30:05,669 --> 01:30:04,239
back then we were going through uh

2308
01:30:11,030 --> 01:30:05,679
growing pains

2309
01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:12,629
we have managed to solve some of those

2310
01:30:17,590 --> 01:30:15,360
historic and social problems but we have

2311
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:17,600
new ones we have covid which a lot of

2312
01:30:22,149 --> 01:30:19,120
people have an emotional reaction to

2313
01:30:24,550 --> 01:30:22,159
that terrorism me too women still be

2314
01:30:25,750 --> 01:30:24,560
mistreated sexual harassment climate

2315
01:30:28,470 --> 01:30:25,760
change

2316
01:30:30,709 --> 01:30:28,480
droughts and fires etc equal rights for

2317
01:30:32,149 --> 01:30:30,719
all he's not just women

2318
01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:32,159
there are different sectors where the

2319
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:33,600
opportunities are not the same for

2320
01:30:38,149 --> 01:30:35,840
everybody plus we still need to defend

2321
01:30:41,189 --> 01:30:38,159
our country we can't talk uap without

2322
01:30:44,870 --> 01:30:43,510
so in the past there was blue book uh

2323
01:30:46,870 --> 01:30:44,880
which he says was an attempt by the

2324
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:46,880
government to sell soft sell and blue

2325
01:30:51,910 --> 01:30:49,360
book was 52 to 69

2326
01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:51,920
um they raised the issue

2327
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:54,080
scratched a niche and then made it go

2328
01:30:59,030 --> 01:30:56,560
away and then all of a sudden here comes

2329
01:31:01,030 --> 01:30:59,040
not all of a sudden but 2017

2330
01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:01,040
and it's not just lou you know he's very

2331
01:31:05,430 --> 01:31:02,800
careful not to just take the credit you

2332
01:31:07,990 --> 01:31:05,440
got harry reid robert bigelow george

2333
01:31:09,430 --> 01:31:08,000
knapp new york times before the media

2334
01:31:11,430 --> 01:31:09,440
never took it seriously they used to

2335
01:31:14,470 --> 01:31:11,440
joke and mock it he really hadn't

2336
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:14,480
achieved anything you know as far as

2337
01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,800
us learning anything the government said

2338
01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:18,639
yeah we have a ufo program what else do

2339
01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:20,000
you want from us

2340
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:23,520
uh nothing was ever really given to us

2341
01:31:27,910 --> 01:31:25,199
the government said nothing to see here

2342
01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:27,920
folks just swamp gas and balloons

2343
01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:30,400
but then two thousand nineteen two 2017

2344
01:31:36,950 --> 01:31:33,440
in a new york times article

2345
01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:36,960
so the last three and a half years

2346
01:31:42,070 --> 01:31:39,520
authentic authentication by the pentagon

2347
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:42,080
real dod videos that depart you ap

2348
01:31:48,229 --> 01:31:45,520
depict uap they're authenticated

2349
01:31:49,830 --> 01:31:48,239
these are our videos classified

2350
01:31:51,830 --> 01:31:49,840
briefings to congress with compelling

2351
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:51,840
data representatives coming out after

2352
01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:53,600
briefings and telling the media this is

2353
01:31:57,510 --> 01:31:55,600
serious we need to look into it those

2354
01:31:59,270 --> 01:31:57,520
representative representatives are not

2355
01:32:01,189 --> 01:31:59,280
avoiding controversy

2356
01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:01,199
politicians are attaching their name to

2357
01:32:06,070 --> 01:32:03,520
this and championing the cause that

2358
01:32:08,149 --> 01:32:06,080
would be marco rubio and

2359
01:32:12,550 --> 01:32:08,159
mark warner and

2360
01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:12,560
senator heinrich and other people

2361
01:32:16,390 --> 01:32:14,320
uh briefings to presidents trump

2362
01:32:18,070 --> 01:32:16,400
admitted he was briefed acknowledging

2363
01:32:20,149 --> 01:32:18,080
from former government people like

2364
01:32:21,669 --> 01:32:20,159
former cia heads john brennan john

2365
01:32:24,550 --> 01:32:21,679
woolsey former

2366
01:32:26,790 --> 01:32:24,560
dni john ratcliffe academics are getting

2367
01:32:29,189 --> 01:32:26,800
involved ivy lobe harvard they say it's

2368
01:32:30,790 --> 01:32:29,199
worthy of research nasa administrator

2369
01:32:32,629 --> 01:32:30,800
bill nelson is like yeah hell we want to

2370
01:32:34,950 --> 01:32:32,639
be a part of this establishment of the

2371
01:32:38,149 --> 01:32:34,960
uap task force for the first time you

2372
01:32:41,270 --> 01:32:38,159
know notice lou says it's not a balloon

2373
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:41,280
or a drone task force it's a uap task

2374
01:32:46,790 --> 01:32:44,080
force and remember

2375
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:46,800
the pyramid and the sphere and all of

2376
01:32:50,470 --> 01:32:48,400
that footage

2377
01:32:52,830 --> 01:32:50,480
that's part of the most of that was part

2378
01:32:54,550 --> 01:32:52,840
of the uap task force

2379
01:32:56,149 --> 01:32:54,560
so

2380
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:56,159
that's a little that's a little a little

2381
01:32:58,709 --> 01:32:57,920
bit in my opinion a slight dig who

2382
01:33:01,669 --> 01:32:58,719
people

2383
01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:01,679
throw up the balloon and drone theory

2384
01:33:05,189 --> 01:33:03,760
if it made it into the uap task force if

2385
01:33:07,590 --> 01:33:05,199
it made it that far

2386
01:33:09,510 --> 01:33:07,600
they do not believe it was a plane

2387
01:33:11,189 --> 01:33:09,520
you know or a balloon

2388
01:33:12,870 --> 01:33:11,199
or a drone and those people are our

2389
01:33:14,470 --> 01:33:12,880
government in the navy they're not

2390
01:33:16,229 --> 01:33:14,480
idiots they have other people who are

2391
01:33:17,590 --> 01:33:16,239
experts they reach out to it's not i

2392
01:33:19,030 --> 01:33:17,600
know it's just a couple people on the

2393
01:33:20,870 --> 01:33:19,040
task force but there are other

2394
01:33:24,790 --> 01:33:20,880
consultants and other experts they reach

2395
01:33:26,709 --> 01:33:24,800
out to so the ig inspector general

2396
01:33:28,629 --> 01:33:26,719
evaluation is underway and it's very

2397
01:33:30,629 --> 01:33:28,639
public inspector general came out and

2398
01:33:31,990 --> 01:33:30,639
said we want to do this so it's

2399
01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:32,000
transparent

2400
01:33:35,750 --> 01:33:33,600
they're willing to spend tax taxpayer

2401
01:33:37,510 --> 01:33:35,760
money to look into this you got the 180

2402
01:33:38,950 --> 01:33:37,520
day report where people said you know

2403
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:38,960
some people said ah there's nothing to

2404
01:33:42,870 --> 01:33:40,960
it he goes well there is you know the

2405
01:33:45,990 --> 01:33:42,880
complete report

2406
01:33:47,750 --> 01:33:46,000
despite those who said it was a hot

2407
01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:47,760
it was a lot less

2408
01:33:53,030 --> 01:33:50,560
like 17 pages so lou says the complete

2409
01:33:55,030 --> 01:33:53,040
report is 70 plus pages despite with

2410
01:33:57,030 --> 01:33:55,040
those folks who said it was like 17

2411
01:33:58,550 --> 01:33:57,040
pages and we know who was saying that

2412
01:34:00,870 --> 01:33:58,560
and saying their government source told

2413
01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:00,880
them that and lou says no he goes and

2414
01:34:04,870 --> 01:34:02,560
when that comes out people will say oh

2415
01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:04,880
yeah lou was right

2416
01:34:09,510 --> 01:34:07,520
uh like he always is right i've never

2417
01:34:11,430 --> 01:34:09,520
the only thing i've heard

2418
01:34:12,870 --> 01:34:11,440
criticism of him i mean there's some

2419
01:34:15,189 --> 01:34:12,880
criticism but

2420
01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:15,199
talking about the funding for ossep

2421
01:34:18,310 --> 01:34:16,000
which

2422
01:34:19,430 --> 01:34:18,320
as far as i know did not go to atip so

2423
01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:19,440
he may

2424
01:34:22,550 --> 01:34:20,880
mix those together and talk about that

2425
01:34:23,590 --> 01:34:22,560
but as far as i know atip never got a

2426
01:34:25,830 --> 01:34:23,600
dime

2427
01:34:27,189 --> 01:34:25,840
so they were struggling on a shoestring

2428
01:34:30,470 --> 01:34:27,199
zero budget

2429
01:34:32,070 --> 01:34:30,480
uh the latest everybody's asking uh

2430
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:32,080
i wanted to look this up again because i

2431
01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:33,120
have not

2432
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:35,520
familiar yourself familiar familiarize

2433
01:34:38,870 --> 01:34:37,199
myself as well as i should have but you

2434
01:34:40,950 --> 01:34:38,880
know there's a recent

2435
01:34:43,669 --> 01:34:40,960
update where they're asking for a report

2436
01:34:44,830 --> 01:34:43,679
now every 90 days

2437
01:34:47,430 --> 01:34:44,840
and lou

2438
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:47,440
says a hundred years of data that you

2439
01:34:50,950 --> 01:34:49,280
never told us about

2440
01:34:52,470 --> 01:34:50,960
because it takes a lot of government for

2441
01:34:54,790 --> 01:34:52,480
that group to say

2442
01:34:58,070 --> 01:34:54,800
to the government say yeah you have some

2443
01:35:01,189 --> 01:34:58,080
explaining to do government

2444
01:35:03,910 --> 01:35:01,199
and that is cookie going crazy

2445
01:35:05,750 --> 01:35:03,920
blueprint and strategy going forward

2446
01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:05,760
department uh deputy secretary of

2447
01:35:09,270 --> 01:35:07,679
defense on the same day the report came

2448
01:35:10,470 --> 01:35:09,280
out

2449
01:35:14,709 --> 01:35:10,480
said

2450
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:15,910
and now we're gonna start and she

2451
01:35:19,109 --> 01:35:17,360
started putting pressure on people to i

2452
01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:19,119
think it was within two weeks they have

2453
01:35:23,109 --> 01:35:21,119
to report their sightings but people say

2454
01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:23,119
well only if it happens uh near on a

2455
01:35:27,750 --> 01:35:25,920
government you know facility but

2456
01:35:28,470 --> 01:35:27,760
that was progress and lou pointed that

2457
01:35:30,709 --> 01:35:28,480
out

2458
01:35:32,950 --> 01:35:30,719
he said we need to educate the executive

2459
01:35:34,470 --> 01:35:32,960
and legislative branch equally on this

2460
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:34,480
and don't give one more information than

2461
01:35:38,470 --> 01:35:36,320
the other and then maybe international

2462
01:35:40,229 --> 01:35:38,480
will get help maybe from nato the five

2463
01:35:41,830 --> 01:35:40,239
eyes australia canada

2464
01:35:43,430 --> 01:35:41,840
new zealand the united kingdom and

2465
01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:43,440
united states

2466
01:35:49,189 --> 01:35:46,960
uh and hopefully maybe the u.n

2467
01:35:51,189 --> 01:35:49,199
we need more and more media and public

2468
01:35:52,870 --> 01:35:51,199
engagement why is that important because

2469
01:35:56,790 --> 01:35:52,880
the executive and legislative branch

2470
01:35:59,430 --> 01:35:56,800
won't do anything unless you know the

2471
01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:59,440
the public starts pushing

2472
01:36:02,550 --> 01:36:00,480
and there's something he called the

2473
01:36:04,310 --> 01:36:02,560
washington post test

2474
01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:04,320
you do everything with the understanding

2475
01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:05,920
that it could be on the front page of

2476
01:36:09,830 --> 01:36:07,920
the washington post tomorrow so if the

2477
01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:09,840
american people are behind our

2478
01:36:13,510 --> 01:36:11,360
representatives they'll be more willing

2479
01:36:14,950 --> 01:36:13,520
to look into more the media will report

2480
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:14,960
on what the people are interested in

2481
01:36:18,149 --> 01:36:17,040
well for the media it's pretty obvious

2482
01:36:23,590 --> 01:36:18,159
those

2483
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:23,600
programs on television are very highly

2484
01:36:26,229 --> 01:36:25,360
rated as far as i know people love this

2485
01:36:28,709 --> 01:36:26,239
stuff

2486
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:28,719
you know the other day

2487
01:36:39,350 --> 01:36:30,320
a

2488
01:36:40,229 --> 01:36:39,360
which is up eight percent from 2019 the

2489
01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:40,239
same

2490
01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:41,119
poll

2491
01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:42,639
who said people need to speak up you

2492
01:36:47,189 --> 01:36:44,719
know it's okay to talk about this the

2493
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:47,199
truth sounds shall set you free it's in

2494
01:36:56,149 --> 01:36:55,030
but he disagrees with um with dolan

2495
01:36:57,830 --> 01:36:56,159
he says i don't think we need the

2496
01:37:01,590 --> 01:36:57,840
government to acknowledge anything for

2497
01:37:04,709 --> 01:37:03,030
the government will be the last to come

2498
01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:04,719
on board we don't need the government to

2499
01:37:08,390 --> 01:37:06,080
go to church and if you guys have

2500
01:37:09,750 --> 01:37:08,400
questions write them down don't just i'm

2501
01:37:10,950 --> 01:37:09,760
not i cannot see them as i'm going

2502
01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:10,960
through this write them down i'll get to

2503
01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:11,760
them

2504
01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:17,040
on the six and a half hour of this live

2505
01:37:20,470 --> 01:37:18,480
oh

2506
01:37:22,470 --> 01:37:20,480
let me just switch sorry let me switch

2507
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:22,480
to power

2508
01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:31,109
what we have left is we still have blue

2509
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:32,800
all of this and then we have marshall

2510
01:37:39,590 --> 01:37:33,920
summers and then we have ralph

2511
01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:40,709
so

2512
01:37:43,109 --> 01:37:42,000
you don't need the government to tell

2513
01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:43,119
you if you can go to church or the

2514
01:37:46,950 --> 01:37:44,880
synagogue or the mosque right or

2515
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:46,960
permission to make dinner do we want

2516
01:37:49,590 --> 01:37:48,480
them to give up the goods on what they

2517
01:37:51,270 --> 01:37:49,600
already know

2518
01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:51,280
yes i'm so glad they added that because

2519
01:37:54,149 --> 01:37:52,480
that was my complaint i'm like yeah we

2520
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:54,159
don't want the government

2521
01:37:58,229 --> 01:37:56,400
but we want their data

2522
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:58,239
he goes but that might not happen we

2523
01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:59,760
don't need them to tell us something we

2524
01:38:02,790 --> 01:38:01,280
already know it's not just a national

2525
01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:02,800
security issue it's

2526
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:04,960
social theological psychological

2527
01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:07,199
philosophical he doesn't care if any

2528
01:38:10,149 --> 01:38:08,719
president makes an announcement he goes

2529
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:10,159
i consider them a professional

2530
01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:12,480
politician you know i don't care if they

2531
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:14,080
stand up and say it's real we don't need

2532
01:38:18,149 --> 01:38:16,000
permission of the government to say this

2533
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:18,159
is real this train is moving and you

2534
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:20,080
better get on board or be left behind at

2535
01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:21,360
the station

2536
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:22,800
you know do we ask the government if the

2537
01:38:33,189 --> 01:38:31,750
we're relying on a system

2538
01:38:35,510 --> 01:38:33,199
the government that was designed to

2539
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:35,520
protect us and we're expecting to mean

2540
01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:37,679
it to be more than what it is

2541
01:38:41,510 --> 01:38:39,520
you know i applaud politicians who are

2542
01:38:44,870 --> 01:38:41,520
coming out and speaking on this but

2543
01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:44,880
where were they 5 10 15 years ago

2544
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:46,960
i know it's a difficult topic he goes

2545
01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:49,440
but you can say the same thing about me

2546
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:50,400
he goes

2547
01:38:54,229 --> 01:38:52,080
yeah where the hell were you lou and

2548
01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:54,239
this is him saying that's not me he goes

2549
01:38:57,910 --> 01:38:56,239
where were you lou ten years ago you

2550
01:38:59,910 --> 01:38:57,920
were telling people to shut up and not

2551
01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:59,920
talk about this subject and he goes

2552
01:39:03,669 --> 01:39:01,440
you're right if you're saying that so

2553
01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:03,679
he's criticizing himself he goes i would

2554
01:39:07,270 --> 01:39:05,920
tell people after a briefing i don't

2555
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:07,280
think lou has ever talked about this but

2556
01:39:10,149 --> 01:39:08,800
i haven't heard every one of his

2557
01:39:11,830 --> 01:39:10,159
interviews he goes

2558
01:39:13,830 --> 01:39:11,840
i would tell people after a brief

2559
01:39:16,149 --> 01:39:13,840
briefing

2560
01:39:17,910 --> 01:39:16,159
if you're if you talk about this

2561
01:39:19,990 --> 01:39:17,920
you will lose your clearance and your

2562
01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:20,000
life will be really tough for you and

2563
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:22,239
you'll possibly go to jail

2564
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:25,040
i was that guy he goes therein lies part

2565
01:39:28,229 --> 01:39:26,800
of the problem i was doing what i

2566
01:39:30,149 --> 01:39:28,239
thought i was supposed to do on behalf

2567
01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:30,159
of the government you know maybe i was

2568
01:39:34,550 --> 01:39:31,920
maybe i wasn't i don't know i was just

2569
01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:34,560
asked to do a job and i did the job but

2570
01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:36,400
then i realized that wasn't gonna get us

2571
01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:37,440
where we need to go with the

2572
01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:39,440
conversation so he so he and his

2573
01:39:43,109 --> 01:39:41,280
colleagues talked about the best way to

2574
01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:43,119
bring this out of the shadows and into

2575
01:39:48,310 --> 01:39:46,639
the sunlight transparency is best

2576
01:39:50,629 --> 01:39:48,320
if you ask the government to make a

2577
01:39:54,550 --> 01:39:50,639
decision

2578
01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:54,560
on they won't do it so why put it in

2579
01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:56,800
their hands they're not ready and don't

2580
01:40:00,550 --> 01:39:58,880
have enough info asking government to

2581
01:40:01,990 --> 01:40:00,560
prove and provide answers on something

2582
01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:02,000
they're really not qualified to provide

2583
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:03,440
answers on

2584
01:40:06,709 --> 01:40:05,040
that's what you're doing

2585
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:06,719
he goes i know there is more information

2586
01:40:12,629 --> 01:40:09,360
about uap within us government channels

2587
01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:12,639
but they need to be given time to be

2588
01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:14,560
they need to be given time to make

2589
01:40:20,709 --> 01:40:19,119
changes but lou they've had three years

2590
01:40:23,510 --> 01:40:20,719
he says

2591
01:40:25,669 --> 01:40:23,520
well they've had 70 years but in the

2592
01:40:27,350 --> 01:40:25,679
last three years some have been playing

2593
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:27,360
ball and they're on the team of

2594
01:40:31,270 --> 01:40:29,600
transparency and disclosure there are

2595
01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:31,280
elements still in there making some

2596
01:40:35,510 --> 01:40:33,440
people's lives miserable i mean they're

2597
01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:35,520
still trying to come after me but thanks

2598
01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:38,080
to some recent thanks to some recent

2599
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:39,679
in-house government actions they'll have

2600
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:41,440
a tough time doing that

2601
01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:44,000
i think there is a title change i sense

2602
01:40:47,910 --> 01:40:46,000
a receptiveness to having this

2603
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:47,920
conversation i don't think the

2604
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:49,440
government can put it back in the box

2605
01:40:53,669 --> 01:40:51,920
and say nothing to see here as mr dolan

2606
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:53,679
suggests you know there's nothing to see

2607
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:55,840
here it's drones and balloons he thinks

2608
01:40:59,510 --> 01:40:57,440
americans will point to the history on

2609
01:41:01,109 --> 01:40:59,520
this subject where these same objects

2610
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:01,119
were described and he's even talking

2611
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:03,520
about thousands of years ago

2612
01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:05,199
i think we would but i don't know

2613
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:08,320
americans as a whole would

2614
01:41:17,510 --> 01:41:09,679
i liked what he had to say about

2615
01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:19,830
he says i tend to agree on showtime with

2616
01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:22,080
richard dolan's observation

2617
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:24,239
dolan said it was a disinferent disinfo

2618
01:41:26,629 --> 01:41:25,600
thing

2619
01:41:29,350 --> 01:41:26,639
lou said

2620
01:41:31,350 --> 01:41:29,360
i was very disappointed in showtime

2621
01:41:34,550 --> 01:41:31,360
they made assumptions and presumptions

2622
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:34,560
about me with ever without ever talking

2623
01:41:37,830 --> 01:41:35,520
to me

2624
01:41:42,149 --> 01:41:37,840
lots of speculation and some false

2625
01:41:44,870 --> 01:41:43,350
i could have solved some of the

2626
01:41:47,590 --> 01:41:44,880
questions they had if they had talked to

2627
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:47,600
me but they didn't that's pathetic how

2628
01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:49,360
do you not talk to elizondo well you

2629
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:50,560
have a

2630
01:41:58,629 --> 01:41:55,920
may not be nefarious he talks about

2631
01:42:00,390 --> 01:41:58,639
other agendas you know the media youtube

2632
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:00,400
showtime they all rely on clips and

2633
01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:02,480
subscriptions clicks and subscriptions

2634
01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:04,960
to be financially successful only way to

2635
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:06,400
make money is for people to watch you

2636
01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:09,119
know eyeballs how do you do that you

2637
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:12,080
create controversy sell salaciousness

2638
01:42:15,189 --> 01:42:13,600
provide something new exciting and

2639
01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:15,199
unique if there's nothing new and

2640
01:42:19,830 --> 01:42:18,239
exciting you make it up create it jj

2641
01:42:21,990 --> 01:42:19,840
abrams outfit did not do their

2642
01:42:23,350 --> 01:42:22,000
journalistic duty of talking to sources

2643
01:42:25,510 --> 01:42:23,360
and trying to support or refute

2644
01:42:28,390 --> 01:42:25,520
information just put out what they felt

2645
01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:28,400
people would like and it wasn't accurate

2646
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:30,880
they just put out what they felt people

2647
01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:33,119
would like and it wasn't accurate

2648
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:34,880
it does more harm to this discussion

2649
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:36,320
than anything else they created

2650
01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:37,679
controversy

2651
01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:42,800
exist that's problematic when you say

2652
01:42:47,350 --> 01:42:45,199
ufos were created as a psychological op

2653
01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:47,360
to throw off the russians and do so

2654
01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:49,920
without any evidence

2655
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:51,440
these are people who are never in the

2656
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:53,360
government and don't know what a psyop

2657
01:42:59,270 --> 01:42:56,080
is or a denial of deception campaign is

2658
01:43:01,750 --> 01:42:59,280
sounds sexy when more documents come out

2659
01:43:04,229 --> 01:43:01,760
and luch is sure that they're on the way

2660
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:04,239
of coming out or they will come out

2661
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:06,000
he goes

2662
01:43:09,430 --> 01:43:07,280
or if you read the currently

2663
01:43:11,830 --> 01:43:09,440
declassified documents you'll realize

2664
01:43:13,109 --> 01:43:11,840
that's utter nonsense it's garbage they

2665
01:43:14,709 --> 01:43:13,119
just don't know

2666
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:14,719
that sounds pretty cool that sounds

2667
01:43:18,149 --> 01:43:16,560
probable you know they play some sexy

2668
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:18,159
music in the background and pull on my

2669
01:43:23,590 --> 01:43:20,639
emotional heartstrings oh yeah you're

2670
01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:23,600
right it was a deception campaign

2671
01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:24,560
well

2672
01:43:28,310 --> 01:43:25,760
it's not

2673
01:43:29,830 --> 01:43:28,320
i don't think it's fair to you as a

2674
01:43:31,510 --> 01:43:29,840
viewer because it leads you down a road

2675
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:31,520
that goes nowhere it's not based in

2676
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:36,070
and by the way i will put up another

2677
01:43:40,790 --> 01:43:38,639
version of this that just starts with

2678
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:40,800
lou and the panel because those were my

2679
01:43:45,510 --> 01:43:43,199
tape two favorite things i may even skip

2680
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:45,520
i may skip marshall summer's lecture

2681
01:43:51,590 --> 01:43:47,760
here i can do that separately someday

2682
01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:51,600
because he also talks in the the

2683
01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:53,360
panel

2684
01:43:55,990 --> 01:43:55,040
so how do we get beyond relying on

2685
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:56,000
clicks

2686
01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:57,360
i'm not going to tell you the answer

2687
01:44:00,790 --> 01:43:58,800
because then i'll be just as guilty

2688
01:44:03,510 --> 01:44:00,800
guilty as them and the media is the same

2689
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:03,520
way business survives by having eyeballs

2690
01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:06,400
on sets you are the reason media and jj

2691
01:44:10,629 --> 01:44:08,639
abrams exists you watch it and they make

2692
01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:10,639
money off of it they'll keep feeding you

2693
01:44:14,950 --> 01:44:12,960
whatever you want you like apple pie

2694
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:14,960
they'll keep feeding you apple pie you

2695
01:44:18,709 --> 01:44:16,400
know

2696
01:44:21,109 --> 01:44:18,719
was that controversy just created for

2697
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:21,119
clicks subscriptions and money or is

2698
01:44:26,790 --> 01:44:24,239
there really something there there so i

2699
01:44:31,030 --> 01:44:26,800
think he's alluding to some sort of

2700
01:44:32,950 --> 01:44:31,040
psyop i mean he's not clear

2701
01:44:35,189 --> 01:44:32,960
when someone takes an allegation that

2702
01:44:38,709 --> 01:44:35,199
this is an 80 year conspiracy to cover

2703
01:44:40,709 --> 01:44:38,719
up our tech and foil the russians

2704
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:40,719
but when russia fell and the cold war

2705
01:44:45,109 --> 01:44:42,960
was over we still saw ufos you know we

2706
01:44:47,189 --> 01:44:45,119
could have said up psyops over just

2707
01:44:49,030 --> 01:44:47,199
kidding folks

2708
01:44:50,950 --> 01:44:49,040
we won against the russians

2709
01:44:53,430 --> 01:44:50,960
we didn't see that you know we kept

2710
01:44:55,270 --> 01:44:53,440
seeing ufos here and in russia we have

2711
01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:55,280
intel reports from when this all came

2712
01:45:01,350 --> 01:44:58,880
down saying ufos were still being seen

2713
01:45:02,870 --> 01:45:01,360
where's your information operation now

2714
01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:02,880
you know we'd still be doing this when

2715
01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:05,360
we don't need to come on guys let's be

2716
01:45:10,390 --> 01:45:07,760
real what about before the 1940s or

2717
01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:10,400
thousands of years ago valet did a great

2718
01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:13,040
job documenting that

2719
01:45:17,109 --> 01:45:14,800
what's the name of that book

2720
01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:17,119
jacques valet

2721
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:19,760
i have the book too but it goes back to

2722
01:45:29,109 --> 01:45:27,350
see if anybody knows the name of that

2723
01:45:31,750 --> 01:45:29,119
book before i go on

2724
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:31,760
nope it's fine

2725
01:45:35,669 --> 01:45:33,920
what about weinstein and melon on what

2726
01:45:37,109 --> 01:45:35,679
what did i miss i'll get back to it you

2727
01:45:43,430 --> 01:45:37,119
guys bring it up after and i'll answer

2728
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,590
so

2729
01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:47,280
after we won against the russia after

2730
01:45:49,990 --> 01:45:48,719
the cold war was over we kept seeing

2731
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:50,000
ufos

2732
01:45:55,030 --> 01:45:52,960
here and in russia we have the reports

2733
01:45:56,470 --> 01:45:55,040
from when all that happened and ufos

2734
01:45:58,790 --> 01:45:56,480
were still being seen

2735
01:45:59,830 --> 01:45:58,800
so where's your information operation

2736
01:46:03,350 --> 01:45:59,840
now

2737
01:46:05,830 --> 01:46:03,360
don't need to a valet did a great job

2738
01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:05,840
documenting all those old cases from

2739
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:08,239
thousands of years ago why didn't jj

2740
01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:09,360
abrams

2741
01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:10,960
you know why didn't he bring that up the

2742
01:46:15,350 --> 01:46:13,119
old cases why because it's easier to

2743
01:46:17,030 --> 01:46:15,360
sell conspiracy and sell

2744
01:46:19,350 --> 01:46:17,040
sell that they're trying to fool you

2745
01:46:21,669 --> 01:46:19,360
when in reality jj and friends were

2746
01:46:23,189 --> 01:46:21,679
trying to fool you

2747
01:46:25,189 --> 01:46:23,199
and also the people involved there are

2748
01:46:27,270 --> 01:46:25,199
people involved who said things and

2749
01:46:29,350 --> 01:46:27,280
like oh they took me out of context no

2750
01:46:31,830 --> 01:46:29,360
the things you said when you say there's

2751
01:46:34,229 --> 01:46:31,840
a big possibility that you the the tic

2752
01:46:35,830 --> 01:46:34,239
tac and the gimbal and the go fast were

2753
01:46:37,109 --> 01:46:35,840
united states technology and then you

2754
01:46:40,550 --> 01:46:37,119
have

2755
01:46:42,310 --> 01:46:40,560
the former mufon guy which i'm not even

2756
01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:42,320
going to talk about him

2757
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:43,119
so

2758
01:46:47,590 --> 01:46:45,360
he's like i apologize i've been up 44

2759
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:47,600
hours not enough coffee talks about

2760
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:49,440
tomorrow he goes human beings we've been

2761
01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:51,040
here current form

2762
01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:53,760
homo sapiens sapiens 100 thousand years

2763
01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:55,040
ago

2764
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:56,719
we got on the scene then ten thousand

2765
01:47:00,709 --> 01:46:58,320
years ago we went from nomads to

2766
01:47:02,310 --> 01:47:00,719
agrarian society we learned to harness

2767
01:47:03,910 --> 01:47:02,320
mother nature we learned we could plant

2768
01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:03,920
berries instead of moving all around to

2769
01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:06,159
find and collect them and then 400 years

2770
01:47:11,350 --> 01:47:08,400
ago we had the renaissance introduced to

2771
01:47:13,990 --> 01:47:11,360
newtonian physics observations in nature

2772
01:47:16,390 --> 01:47:14,000
could be explained mathematically force

2773
01:47:18,149 --> 01:47:16,400
equals mass times acceleration

2774
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:18,159
humans for the first time looked at the

2775
01:47:23,830 --> 01:47:21,040
blueprint of nature in a new way and

2776
01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:23,840
understood it to understand it

2777
01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:26,480
80 years ago we unlocked the atom to new

2778
01:47:31,109 --> 01:47:28,639
universe above us and also inside of us

2779
01:47:33,350 --> 01:47:31,119
quantum mechanics 60 years ago we went

2780
01:47:35,669 --> 01:47:33,360
went to space the universe is far bigger

2781
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:35,679
than we thought stars are actually

2782
01:47:39,669 --> 01:47:37,840
galaxies look at how far we've come in

2783
01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:39,679
400 years people learned for the first

2784
01:47:43,750 --> 01:47:42,480
time a for about a force called gravity

2785
01:47:45,189 --> 01:47:43,760
you know you ride home on your horse

2786
01:47:46,629 --> 01:47:45,199
before five hours and you tell your

2787
01:47:49,189 --> 01:47:46,639
family about a lecture you just heard

2788
01:47:50,629 --> 01:47:49,199
from sir isaac newton about physics

2789
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:50,639
newton

2790
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:52,800
now we have super computing civilians in

2791
01:47:57,030 --> 01:47:55,040
space as of a couple of weeks ago

2792
01:47:58,709 --> 01:47:57,040
we have evolved more as a species in the

2793
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:58,719
last 200 years since the beginning of

2794
01:48:02,550 --> 01:48:01,199
time since when mankind walked the earth

2795
01:48:04,550 --> 01:48:02,560
so

2796
01:48:06,709 --> 01:48:04,560
you look at that exponential increase in

2797
01:48:07,669 --> 01:48:06,719
our understanding in the known universe

2798
01:48:09,189 --> 01:48:07,679
and then

2799
01:48:12,629 --> 01:48:09,199
what if we come in contact with the

2800
01:48:16,390 --> 01:48:12,639
species 400 years ahead of us

2801
01:48:19,669 --> 01:48:18,629
would we will we even recognize what it

2802
01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:19,679
looks like

2803
01:48:23,990 --> 01:48:21,679
i can't even imagine what about a

2804
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:24,000
million years ahead of us what about 10

2805
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:29,270
this is a planet earth that has been

2806
01:48:34,709 --> 01:48:32,239
around four and a half billion years

2807
01:48:36,149 --> 01:48:34,719
about around this particular sun

2808
01:48:37,830 --> 01:48:36,159
but there was another sun before that

2809
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:37,840
there was a supernova that created the

2810
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:39,520
elements that created the solar system

2811
01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:40,880
that created us

2812
01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:42,639
there was lots of time for something to

2813
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:43,840
advance

2814
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:45,520
what would it look like

2815
01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:46,960
would it be technological would it be

2816
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:48,560
spiritual would it be consciousness

2817
01:48:51,510 --> 01:48:49,840
based

2818
01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:51,520
if there is something ahead of us even

2819
01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:53,600
by a hundred years we may not be able to

2820
01:48:57,910 --> 01:48:56,159
recognize it what would an f-18 look

2821
01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:57,920
like on the tarmac to folks who drove a

2822
01:49:01,669 --> 01:48:59,760
model t forward would they understand

2823
01:49:03,390 --> 01:49:01,679
any of it you don't know what you don't

2824
01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:03,400
know so be careful assigning

2825
01:49:09,109 --> 01:49:06,000
anthropomorphic characterizations onto

2826
01:49:10,709 --> 01:49:09,119
this topic we have a tendency to assign

2827
01:49:12,870 --> 01:49:10,719
things human qualities such as

2828
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:12,880
motivation like when you talk to your

2829
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:15,040
cat or dog to some degree there's an

2830
01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:17,040
emotional response in relationships

2831
01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:19,440
relationship and you have a bond but is

2832
01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:20,639
it human

2833
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:22,320
i don't know

2834
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,320
it's a lot easier to assign to a cat or

2835
01:49:28,149 --> 01:49:26,159
dog human-like qualities than it is

2836
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:28,159
something that maybe doesn't come from

2837
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:30,159
here at all

2838
01:49:35,189 --> 01:49:32,400
what why does it matter to a computer

2839
01:49:37,669 --> 01:49:35,199
which works off a binary process

2840
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:37,679
you know it's not a why it's a how or

2841
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:40,400
what or where where so i mean he may be

2842
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:41,679
alluding to some of what we're dealing

2843
01:49:44,790 --> 01:49:43,840
with is a.i which some people believe

2844
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:44,800
that

2845
01:49:52,310 --> 01:49:49,920
chain chains of chains of the c book

2846
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:52,320
short story which

2847
01:49:56,709 --> 01:49:54,320
he referenced and other people told me

2848
01:50:06,310 --> 01:49:56,719
to read it because it's more important

2849
01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:07,910
a computer does what it does because

2850
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:10,480
that's what it's programmed to do

2851
01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:12,560
it's a binary progress

2852
01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:15,840
process yes or no just a one or a zero

2853
01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:17,599
the way a dog or cat responds to you

2854
01:50:20,950 --> 01:50:19,440
won't necessarily be the same way

2855
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:20,960
something from another part of the solar

2856
01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:22,960
system or something from another

2857
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:25,679
reality or dimension would respond be

2858
01:50:30,709 --> 01:50:27,840
prepared for answers prepared for

2859
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:30,719
answers that don't fit or comport with

2860
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:32,960
our con current understanding or

2861
01:50:38,790 --> 01:50:35,840
paradigm of how things should be

2862
01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:38,800
why would they come here looking at us

2863
01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:46,229
a relative question

2864
01:50:49,669 --> 01:50:48,159
i don't know if i'm saying right

2865
01:50:51,270 --> 01:50:49,679
relevant it might not be a relevant

2866
01:50:53,350 --> 01:50:51,280
question those might not be relative

2867
01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:53,360
relevant questions it might be less

2868
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:55,280
important than the how and the where and

2869
01:51:00,709 --> 01:50:57,679
the what night it might not be a why

2870
01:51:05,189 --> 01:51:02,629
he thanks sheehan who has been his legal

2871
01:51:07,270 --> 01:51:05,199
representative and now his friend thanks

2872
01:51:09,109 --> 01:51:07,280
harry reid rubio bigelow talks early

2873
01:51:11,750 --> 01:51:09,119
days of awesap and then

2874
01:51:13,270 --> 01:51:11,760
later atip and the other person who was

2875
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:13,280
there from the beginning

2876
01:51:17,430 --> 01:51:14,880
doesn't mention his name that's james

2877
01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:17,440
lutkatsky uh and thanks mellon just

2878
01:51:20,310 --> 01:51:19,040
praises mellon and then he said he

2879
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:20,320
attended a forum with some of the

2880
01:51:24,149 --> 01:51:22,080
greatest minds in medicine where they're

2881
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:24,159
committed to curing cancer and if you

2882
01:51:28,709 --> 01:51:26,000
notice lou's been missing kind of

2883
01:51:29,750 --> 01:51:28,719
missing in the last two months a lot

2884
01:51:31,910 --> 01:51:29,760
it's because he was potentially

2885
01:51:34,470 --> 01:51:31,920
diagnosed with cancer and he lost his

2886
01:51:35,669 --> 01:51:34,480
mom and his grandfather the cancer but

2887
01:51:37,510 --> 01:51:35,679
he recently found out there's a good

2888
01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:37,520
chance it's not cancer it was on his

2889
01:51:41,270 --> 01:51:39,520
kidney and he had a conversation with

2890
01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:41,280
these medical mind scientists and he was

2891
01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:43,440
amazed at their receptiveness to talk a

2892
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:45,760
little bit about ufos he goes i don't

2893
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:47,520
think that was possible 40 years ago or

2894
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:49,840
10 years ago or even three years ago

2895
01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:51,119
probably not

2896
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:52,480
it's up to us if we want to let the

2897
01:51:55,589 --> 01:51:54,639
media and elected officials it's a you

2898
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:55,599
know

2899
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:57,280
say it's okay to talk about this and

2900
01:52:01,030 --> 01:51:59,760
spend our tax money taxpayer money

2901
01:52:03,589 --> 01:52:01,040
looking into this and trying to figure

2902
01:52:05,189 --> 01:52:03,599
this out dissenting dissenting voices

2903
01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:05,199
are okay

2904
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:07,040
we've achieved so much in the past three

2905
01:52:10,550 --> 01:52:08,320
and a half years

2906
01:52:12,550 --> 01:52:10,560
he thanks dolan in the panel

2907
01:52:14,790 --> 01:52:12,560
doesn't necessarily subscribe to each

2908
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:14,800
other's narratives but that's okay he

2909
01:52:19,910 --> 01:52:17,360
learned something new every time he

2910
01:52:22,870 --> 01:52:19,920
watches richard dolan okay

2911
01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:22,880
so should i go to the panel

2912
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:24,560
or should i talk about

2913
01:52:28,629 --> 01:52:26,320
marshall summer's lecture i mean he

2914
01:52:31,430 --> 01:52:28,639
talks about

2915
01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:31,440
in the in the panel

2916
01:52:35,430 --> 01:52:33,360
he brings up some of his stuff when they

2917
01:52:36,709 --> 01:52:35,440
cross examine him which was good and he

2918
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:36,719
handled it very well and they weren't

2919
01:52:41,430 --> 01:52:39,040
really mean so should i go to the panel

2920
01:52:48,790 --> 01:52:41,440
or go to marshall summer's lecture

2921
01:52:53,750 --> 01:52:51,350
no thoughts

2922
01:53:05,350 --> 01:52:53,760
summers from julie

2923
01:53:09,350 --> 01:53:07,669
i'll go through um

2924
01:53:14,470 --> 01:53:09,360
panel panel

2925
01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:14,480
summer this 2-2 all right i'm gonna go

2926
01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:17,040
through i'll go through summer's quick

2927
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:19,199
so

2928
01:53:24,310 --> 01:53:21,280
i don't think it's that long for him

2929
01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:26,070
prepare to have more questions than ant

2930
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:28,560
questions and answers

2931
01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:30,560
look at the presents alien presence not

2932
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:33,520
in a fearful or accepting way but in an

2933
01:53:37,350 --> 01:53:34,960
objective way

2934
01:53:40,070 --> 01:53:37,360
let me just change this uh graph real

2935
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:40,080
quick

2936
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:45,430
so

2937
01:53:50,470 --> 01:53:48,000
i had never heard of marshall summers

2938
01:53:53,350 --> 01:53:50,480
somebody might have emailed me about it

2939
01:53:55,109 --> 01:53:53,360
it's possible even he emailed me

2940
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:55,119
but i did not know about his material

2941
01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:56,719
and now i like to i don't know if he's i

2942
01:54:00,070 --> 01:53:58,080
don't know if anything he says is true

2943
01:54:02,390 --> 01:54:00,080
because it's channeled material and

2944
01:54:06,830 --> 01:54:02,400
we have not been able to confirm it

2945
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:11,350
show there we go

2946
01:54:15,750 --> 01:54:13,830
so he says

2947
01:54:17,430 --> 01:54:15,760
we've been he's been at this for 35

2948
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:17,440
years this is his perspective he's

2949
01:54:21,669 --> 01:54:19,920
engaged with people he finds valuable

2950
01:54:25,030 --> 01:54:21,679
incredible and then

2951
01:54:26,550 --> 01:54:25,040
he also has his alien source

2952
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:26,560
he said the story is covered up by the

2953
01:54:33,430 --> 01:54:28,960
government and the forces that are here

2954
01:54:36,950 --> 01:54:35,109
the force that is here does not want us

2955
01:54:39,189 --> 01:54:36,960
to know why they're here

2956
01:54:41,189 --> 01:54:39,199
and forever anybody who has not heard

2957
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:41,199
him he's mostly not

2958
01:54:45,430 --> 01:54:43,760
happy it's more negative but

2959
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:45,440
seems like a really good guy

2960
01:54:53,589 --> 01:54:51,589
we've answered that they're here

2961
01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:53,599
something's here we have non-human craft

2962
01:54:57,189 --> 01:54:55,679
in our skies um

2963
01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:57,199
and they're involved in our world for

2964
01:55:00,950 --> 01:54:59,360
reasons that have been kept secret we're

2965
01:55:01,990 --> 01:55:00,960
the native people of this world of

2966
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:02,000
course

2967
01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:03,280
i don't know if we're the native people

2968
01:55:06,070 --> 01:55:04,560
of this world there may be others that

2969
01:55:07,669 --> 01:55:06,080
were here before us so he makes that

2970
01:55:09,270 --> 01:55:07,679
assumption maybe that's that maybe that

2971
01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:09,280
came through in his message from these

2972
01:55:12,709 --> 01:55:11,040
beings

2973
01:55:14,550 --> 01:55:12,719
did governments try to make a deal in

2974
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:14,560
the beginning with these intelligences

2975
01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:16,320
he goes i don't know it's possible the

2976
01:55:19,189 --> 01:55:17,520
visitors don't want to tell us their

2977
01:55:20,870 --> 01:55:19,199
goals or anything else that should be a

2978
01:55:22,229 --> 01:55:20,880
red flag they're here without our

2979
01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:22,239
permission

2980
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:26,480
he calls that an intervention

2981
01:55:31,430 --> 01:55:29,040
are the ufos in the sky showing us their

2982
01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:31,440
tech so they can show hey we can

2983
01:55:36,310 --> 01:55:34,159
dominate you just so you know

2984
01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:36,320
they can manipulate our military weapons

2985
01:55:40,390 --> 01:55:38,400
from a distance they could turn nukes on

2986
01:55:41,910 --> 01:55:40,400
and nukes off that's referred to in

2987
01:55:43,270 --> 01:55:41,920
slide nine

2988
01:55:45,589 --> 01:55:43,280
but there are thousands of people with

2989
01:55:49,030 --> 01:55:45,599
the same stories abductions pregnancies

2990
01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:50,390
you know and most of those things they

2991
01:55:54,070 --> 01:55:52,080
would not want us to know

2992
01:55:56,790 --> 01:55:54,080
they visitors but thanks to the

2993
01:55:59,430 --> 01:55:56,800
experiences we do know he goes it's

2994
01:56:01,109 --> 01:55:59,440
unethical and illegal they don't seem to

2995
01:56:03,430 --> 01:56:01,119
care how it affects us

2996
01:56:07,510 --> 01:56:03,440
he's spoken to many abductees uh and his

2997
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:09,430
attempts by others to turn this into a

2998
01:56:13,030 --> 01:56:11,440
positive or spiritual experience maybe

2999
01:56:16,870 --> 01:56:13,040
overlooking what these other people have

3000
01:56:18,790 --> 01:56:16,880
been through so why why are they here

3001
01:56:20,310 --> 01:56:18,800
and he gets into more details into the

3002
01:56:22,790 --> 01:56:20,320
panel i'm not sure if he goes backwards

3003
01:56:24,149 --> 01:56:22,800
but he explains what happened

3004
01:56:25,910 --> 01:56:24,159
i'll tell you quickly you know he had

3005
01:56:27,189 --> 01:56:25,920
this message and they say hey i'm not

3006
01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:27,199
sure if he gets into this into this

3007
01:56:31,589 --> 01:56:29,360
lecture but i'll say it in case

3008
01:56:33,430 --> 01:56:31,599
had this telepathic message he had been

3009
01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:33,440
supposedly communicating with like some

3010
01:56:35,750 --> 01:56:34,719
angelic

3011
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:35,760
messages

3012
01:56:38,709 --> 01:56:37,199
for years and then he got this other

3013
01:56:41,589 --> 01:56:38,719
message which was different and it was

3014
01:56:43,430 --> 01:56:41,599
supposedly these allies of humanity

3015
01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:43,440
not on this planet but nearby telling

3016
01:56:46,390 --> 01:56:45,280
him and at that time they may have been

3017
01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:46,400
close to the planet i think they

3018
01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:47,679
actually even may have been on the

3019
01:56:51,189 --> 01:56:49,840
planet at some point or really in our

3020
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:51,199
atmosphere but

3021
01:56:55,189 --> 01:56:53,520
hey you have these other beings here

3022
01:56:57,109 --> 01:56:55,199
they're taking advantage of your planet

3023
01:56:58,790 --> 01:56:57,119
they're they're they're not good for you

3024
01:57:01,109 --> 01:56:58,800
their intentions are not good so that

3025
01:57:02,870 --> 01:57:01,119
was the message from these other beings

3026
01:57:04,950 --> 01:57:02,880
um so that's the basic part and it was

3027
01:57:07,669 --> 01:57:04,960
channeled information

3028
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:07,679
and it's really great when lou and talk

3029
01:57:10,709 --> 01:57:08,960
talks to him and tries to figure out

3030
01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:10,719
what's going on

3031
01:57:15,350 --> 01:57:11,920
so

3032
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:15,360
a gem of the universe where most other

3033
01:57:19,750 --> 01:57:17,440
planets are barren and we're destroying

3034
01:57:22,390 --> 01:57:19,760
it we're reckless and we're barbaric you

3035
01:57:23,910 --> 01:57:22,400
know maybe this this other group the

3036
01:57:25,910 --> 01:57:23,920
ones the negative ones maybe they want

3037
01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:25,920
to stop us from doing that because you

3038
01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:28,480
know they use the planet

3039
01:57:32,390 --> 01:57:30,320
he says we sent out radios and whoever

3040
01:57:34,390 --> 01:57:32,400
was listening to our radio show

3041
01:57:36,229 --> 01:57:34,400
our radio shows radio signals were able

3042
01:57:38,470 --> 01:57:36,239
to get a lot of information about those

3043
01:57:40,149 --> 01:57:38,480
probably not the best thing to do

3044
01:57:41,750 --> 01:57:40,159
why else would they be here while our

3045
01:57:44,229 --> 01:57:41,760
nukes are our potential to the other

3046
01:57:46,229 --> 01:57:44,239
people in this solar system potential

3047
01:57:47,750 --> 01:57:46,239
damage you know they've studied us for a

3048
01:57:50,149 --> 01:57:47,760
long time and they know how to appeal to

3049
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:50,159
what appeal to us and frighten us they

3050
01:57:54,709 --> 01:57:52,560
are not a military force they use the

3051
01:57:56,709 --> 01:57:54,719
power of persuasion and use their own

3052
01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:56,719
conflict use our own conflict and

3053
01:58:01,430 --> 01:57:59,440
insecurities against us they probably

3054
01:58:03,910 --> 01:58:01,440
live in space because it's too dangerous

3055
01:58:05,510 --> 01:58:03,920
for their bio biology to be here they

3056
01:58:07,350 --> 01:58:05,520
seem to need us

3057
01:58:09,910 --> 01:58:07,360
they're recruiting us like at ufo

3058
01:58:11,589 --> 01:58:09,920
conferences and he's talking about

3059
01:58:15,430 --> 01:58:11,599
telepathically you know people sharing

3060
01:58:17,109 --> 01:58:15,440
messages of light and love he believes

3061
01:58:18,629 --> 01:58:17,119
he believes that's nonsense i don't know

3062
01:58:20,310 --> 01:58:18,639
if they believe that if that message

3063
01:58:23,189 --> 01:58:20,320
came through these beings in his

3064
01:58:24,709 --> 01:58:23,199
telepathic channeling i will i started

3065
01:58:27,589 --> 01:58:24,719
to read the book yes four of them

3066
01:58:29,189 --> 01:58:27,599
they're all online for free

3067
01:58:31,030 --> 01:58:29,199
you hear this narrative they're here to

3068
01:58:32,310 --> 01:58:31,040
help us they're g he goes when you do

3069
01:58:34,310 --> 01:58:32,320
that you're giving away your power

3070
01:58:36,390 --> 01:58:34,320
without having any idea of why they're

3071
01:58:38,470 --> 01:58:36,400
here and what they're doing and i agree

3072
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:38,480
100 with that i know there are other

3073
01:58:41,910 --> 01:58:39,760
people who have experiences it's

3074
01:58:43,830 --> 01:58:41,920
transformed their lives but we don't

3075
01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:43,840
know what we're dealing with so

3076
01:58:47,430 --> 01:58:45,440
me personally i'm very hesitant with

3077
01:58:49,030 --> 01:58:47,440
that

3078
01:58:50,709 --> 01:58:49,040
so they're here with an undermining and

3079
01:58:52,790 --> 01:58:50,719
now you know it's always the negative

3080
01:58:55,189 --> 01:58:52,800
group i'm referring to unless we point

3081
01:58:57,510 --> 01:58:55,199
out specifics the allies of humanity are

3082
01:58:58,950 --> 01:58:57,520
the good ones allegedly so the negatives

3083
01:59:00,470 --> 01:58:58,960
ones are here with

3084
01:59:01,430 --> 01:59:00,480
or the selfish ones i shouldn't say

3085
01:59:05,189 --> 01:59:01,440
negative they're here with an

3086
01:59:09,030 --> 01:59:07,030
can understand why government went

3087
01:59:11,750 --> 01:59:09,040
underground with this information he can

3088
01:59:14,790 --> 01:59:11,760
understand you know

3089
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:14,800
no helpful intelligence or beings would

3090
01:59:18,709 --> 01:59:16,800
come here since we're so divided and we

3091
01:59:20,470 --> 01:59:18,719
don't have a voice to speak for us we

3092
01:59:21,990 --> 01:59:20,480
don't have one voice and that makes a

3093
01:59:23,589 --> 01:59:22,000
lot of sense you know if some other

3094
01:59:25,430 --> 01:59:23,599
species came here and like hey let's

3095
01:59:26,390 --> 01:59:25,440
talk to the planet who would they go to

3096
01:59:28,830 --> 01:59:26,400
you know

3097
01:59:31,109 --> 01:59:28,840
tom hanks i vote tom hanks to be our

3098
01:59:32,950 --> 01:59:31,119
representative uh so now we have climate

3099
01:59:34,550 --> 01:59:32,960
change the pandemic

3100
01:59:36,470 --> 01:59:34,560
which he thinks has a long way to go

3101
01:59:37,990 --> 01:59:36,480
that's marshall summer saying that uh

3102
01:59:39,750 --> 01:59:38,000
and then we have breakdown going on this

3103
01:59:41,430 --> 01:59:39,760
planet we have a world we're living in a

3104
01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:41,440
world of doubt we've lost faith in our

3105
01:59:45,510 --> 01:59:43,599
leaders it's the perfect environment for

3106
01:59:47,350 --> 01:59:45,520
the intervention and the intervention is

3107
01:59:48,229 --> 01:59:47,360
a negative word for what's going on with

3108
01:59:50,950 --> 01:59:48,239
these

3109
01:59:52,709 --> 01:59:50,960
i'll call them negative negative beings

3110
01:59:54,390 --> 01:59:52,719
don't have our best interests in heart

3111
01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:54,400
to say the least

3112
01:59:57,750 --> 01:59:56,159
yeah

3113
01:59:59,510 --> 01:59:57,760
so they're helping these beings he

3114
02:00:01,270 --> 01:59:59,520
thinks they might be helping to push

3115
02:00:03,430 --> 02:00:01,280
conspiracy theories so people are

3116
02:00:05,910 --> 02:00:03,440
confused

3117
02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:05,920
we humans are like the natives of old

3118
02:00:09,990 --> 02:00:07,440
we're facing tall ships of the

3119
02:00:11,750 --> 02:00:10,000
foreigners coming to visit us

3120
02:00:13,270 --> 02:00:11,760
uh the strategy of intervention was

3121
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:13,280
revealed to him by the allies of

3122
02:00:19,510 --> 02:00:17,119
humanity he and he believes

3123
02:00:21,109 --> 02:00:19,520
i'm not sure if they said this but

3124
02:00:22,950 --> 02:00:21,119
that's why i need to read the book and i

3125
02:00:24,870 --> 02:00:22,960
will i would love to interview him seems

3126
02:00:26,149 --> 02:00:24,880
like a really nice guy sweet guy i don't

3127
02:00:27,669 --> 02:00:26,159
know like i said i don't know if this

3128
02:00:28,550 --> 02:00:27,679
information is accurate how could i know

3129
02:00:30,470 --> 02:00:28,560
that

3130
02:00:32,629 --> 02:00:30,480
it talks about a hybrid hybridization

3131
02:00:34,470 --> 02:00:32,639
program and they're reaching individuals

3132
02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:34,480
psychically and they'll the plan is to

3133
02:00:39,350 --> 02:00:36,880
infiltrate us so i'm thinking hybrids

3134
02:00:41,990 --> 02:00:39,360
like david jacobs they offer tech and

3135
02:00:44,470 --> 02:00:42,000
power to people in positions of

3136
02:00:46,950 --> 02:00:44,480
yeah they offer tech

3137
02:00:47,990 --> 02:00:46,960
and power to people who are in positions

3138
02:00:50,550 --> 02:00:48,000
of power

3139
02:00:52,629 --> 02:00:50,560
which would be like a proxy thing

3140
02:00:54,310 --> 02:00:52,639
which michael has talked about and

3141
02:00:55,830 --> 02:00:54,320
i think the farsight institute talks

3142
02:00:59,189 --> 02:00:55,840
about their data saying

3143
02:01:02,950 --> 02:01:01,350
corrupted various leaders around the

3144
02:01:05,510 --> 02:01:02,960
world i think they said religious

3145
02:01:07,109 --> 02:01:05,520
leaders and political leaders

3146
02:01:09,669 --> 02:01:07,119
that's what they claim in their farsight

3147
02:01:11,430 --> 02:01:09,679
remote viewing data

3148
02:01:13,350 --> 02:01:11,440
marshall says maybe this group negative

3149
02:01:15,990 --> 02:01:13,360
group is underground most likely they're

3150
02:01:18,709 --> 02:01:16,000
in our oceans or large bodies of water

3151
02:01:20,390 --> 02:01:18,719
they're manipulating religious values

3152
02:01:23,109 --> 02:01:20,400
he thinks this is the biggest event

3153
02:01:24,870 --> 02:01:23,119
facing us but this isn't the main focus

3154
02:01:26,950 --> 02:01:24,880
of marshall summer's work he does other

3155
02:01:28,870 --> 02:01:26,960
work but he thinks it's too important so

3156
02:01:30,790 --> 02:01:28,880
he has to talk about it now

3157
02:01:32,310 --> 02:01:30,800
thinks things happen for a reason always

3158
02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:32,320
be open

3159
02:01:37,109 --> 02:01:34,000
you know it's as if they're trying to

3160
02:01:38,709 --> 02:01:37,119
pacify those of us who can discern their

3161
02:01:40,550 --> 02:01:38,719
presence

3162
02:01:42,070 --> 02:01:40,560
don't worry it's all part of the bigger

3163
02:01:43,510 --> 02:01:42,080
plan he goes that's what he thinks

3164
02:01:46,550 --> 02:01:43,520
they're trying to tell us trying to

3165
02:01:49,189 --> 02:01:46,560
mislead us just give in believe accept

3166
02:01:51,189 --> 02:01:49,199
us we're here to help you

3167
02:01:53,350 --> 02:01:51,199
you know it's like

3168
02:01:55,350 --> 02:01:53,360
if they can manipulate our perceptions

3169
02:01:57,030 --> 02:01:55,360
and put thoughts on our heads you know

3170
02:01:58,629 --> 02:01:57,040
if you get a positive thought and it

3171
02:02:00,310 --> 02:01:58,639
tells you something

3172
02:02:02,149 --> 02:02:00,320
that makes you think that this group

3173
02:02:04,070 --> 02:02:02,159
here is very helpful for us how do you

3174
02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:04,080
know that's an accurate message or it's

3175
02:02:08,709 --> 02:02:06,880
something of deception it's impossible

3176
02:02:10,870 --> 02:02:08,719
unless you build up your own intuition

3177
02:02:13,510 --> 02:02:10,880
which i think is the way we're going in

3178
02:02:15,350 --> 02:02:13,520
the future we need the best

3179
02:02:16,870 --> 02:02:15,360
intuitives to work on this with us to

3180
02:02:19,510 --> 02:02:16,880
figure out what the hell's going on to

3181
02:02:21,189 --> 02:02:19,520
see if this information is accurate

3182
02:02:26,950 --> 02:02:21,199
hopefully they'll do that at the new

3183
02:02:31,109 --> 02:02:28,550
he says maybe they're helping to create

3184
02:02:32,950 --> 02:02:31,119
human conflict through terrorism

3185
02:02:34,550 --> 02:02:32,960
that's definitely conspiracy there

3186
02:02:36,310 --> 02:02:34,560
somehow these beings are

3187
02:02:38,709 --> 02:02:36,320
working with terrorists to create

3188
02:02:41,030 --> 02:02:38,719
conflict throughout the world

3189
02:02:43,030 --> 02:02:41,040
um

3190
02:02:44,790 --> 02:02:43,040
he thinks they're import employing

3191
02:02:46,310 --> 02:02:44,800
psychics who probably don't realize

3192
02:02:47,990 --> 02:02:46,320
they're being employed to spread this

3193
02:02:49,750 --> 02:02:48,000
message that they're here to

3194
02:02:51,350 --> 02:02:49,760
help

3195
02:02:52,550 --> 02:02:51,360
you know they give us what we want to

3196
02:02:54,790 --> 02:02:52,560
believe

3197
02:02:57,350 --> 02:02:54,800
this is how a very small non-military

3198
02:03:00,709 --> 02:02:57,360
force can turn the attitude of the whole

3199
02:03:02,470 --> 02:03:00,719
world over a long period of time classic

3200
02:03:05,189 --> 02:03:02,480
divide and conquer

3201
02:03:07,109 --> 02:03:05,199
mentions the incas and aztecs

3202
02:03:07,990 --> 02:03:07,119
how they fell for this will we fall for

3203
02:03:10,790 --> 02:03:08,000
this

3204
02:03:11,910 --> 02:03:10,800
that maybe what's going on is different

3205
02:03:13,510 --> 02:03:11,920
he goes but

3206
02:03:14,790 --> 02:03:13,520
from what he can tell

3207
02:03:17,270 --> 02:03:14,800
you know

3208
02:03:18,470 --> 02:03:17,280
what he sees so far it's not saying that

3209
02:03:20,870 --> 02:03:18,480
meaning you know they're secretive

3210
02:03:22,229 --> 02:03:20,880
they're so secretive

3211
02:03:25,189 --> 02:03:22,239
he doesn't think they can live here

3212
02:03:27,990 --> 02:03:25,199
because we're too violent

3213
02:03:30,030 --> 02:03:28,000
they need an intimate intermediary

3214
02:03:35,109 --> 02:03:30,040
intermediary that looks

3215
02:03:37,669 --> 02:03:35,119
talks like us but is different and whose

3216
02:03:40,390 --> 02:03:37,679
whole allegiance is to them the visitors

3217
02:03:42,070 --> 02:03:40,400
i think once again that would be hybrids

3218
02:03:44,310 --> 02:03:42,080
he says similar things have happened in

3219
02:03:45,589 --> 02:03:44,320
our history on a human level where we're

3220
02:03:47,910 --> 02:03:45,599
blending with blending with the

3221
02:03:50,550 --> 02:03:47,920
population

3222
02:03:52,629 --> 02:03:50,560
he says ufos can be anything

3223
02:03:54,229 --> 02:03:52,639
you know when people say that he goes

3224
02:03:56,470 --> 02:03:54,239
and people fill in the blanks with their

3225
02:03:58,229 --> 02:03:56,480
own ideas and narratives and the people

3226
02:04:01,350 --> 02:03:58,239
putting their own personal reality into

3227
02:04:03,030 --> 02:04:01,360
this they're so desperate for contact um

3228
02:04:04,550 --> 02:04:03,040
and they just want it to happen so bad

3229
02:04:06,229 --> 02:04:04,560
he doesn't think that's a good thing so

3230
02:04:09,990 --> 02:04:06,239
it thinks it's dangerous

3231
02:04:12,629 --> 02:04:10,000
ets who were here

3232
02:04:15,350 --> 02:04:12,639
so he said these allies of humanity who

3233
02:04:17,270 --> 02:04:15,360
were here this is really interesting

3234
02:04:19,510 --> 02:04:17,280
once again don't know if it's true but

3235
02:04:21,109 --> 02:04:19,520
he says the ones who are here to help us

3236
02:04:24,390 --> 02:04:21,119
you know with nuclear war and everything

3237
02:04:26,550 --> 02:04:24,400
like that he goes they have withdrawn

3238
02:04:28,629 --> 02:04:26,560
to make it clear that whoever's left

3239
02:04:30,310 --> 02:04:28,639
here is not here in our best interest if

3240
02:04:31,910 --> 02:04:30,320
if it was a bat you know a bunch of

3241
02:04:34,149 --> 02:04:31,920
groups negative and positive he said it

3242
02:04:35,910 --> 02:04:34,159
would be impossible for humans to know

3243
02:04:38,950 --> 02:04:35,920
who is good and who was bad which kind

3244
02:04:40,550 --> 02:04:38,960
of makes sense you know so

3245
02:04:43,189 --> 02:04:40,560
if they really are a group and they have

3246
02:04:44,470 --> 02:04:43,199
a message whoever's visiting you is not

3247
02:04:46,069 --> 02:04:44,480
good you don't have to worry that some

3248
02:04:47,589 --> 02:04:46,079
of them might be us

3249
02:04:49,189 --> 02:04:47,599
so he said

3250
02:04:50,550 --> 02:04:49,199
he did that so there would be you know

3251
02:04:52,629 --> 02:04:50,560
they left so there would be an

3252
02:04:54,470 --> 02:04:52,639
unambiguous situation

3253
02:04:56,470 --> 02:04:54,480
are there multiple groups here right now

3254
02:04:58,149 --> 02:04:56,480
he goes probably

3255
02:04:59,990 --> 02:04:58,159
friends of humanity would not be doing

3256
02:05:02,310 --> 02:05:00,000
these covert things and undermine faith

3257
02:05:04,069 --> 02:05:02,320
in ourselves and human leadership

3258
02:05:05,750 --> 02:05:04,079
the way people react tells them people

3259
02:05:07,350 --> 02:05:05,760
have no idea this is even possible

3260
02:05:09,109 --> 02:05:07,360
people want this to be a good thing to

3261
02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:09,119
validate their own beliefs

3262
02:05:12,629 --> 02:05:10,960
there's a real and present threat they

3263
02:05:14,550 --> 02:05:12,639
know we will make irrational decisions

3264
02:05:17,270 --> 02:05:14,560
in the name of our religions they will

3265
02:05:19,030 --> 02:05:17,280
use any of our doubts any of our doubts

3266
02:05:21,030 --> 02:05:19,040
in ourselves or the government to gain

3267
02:05:23,990 --> 02:05:21,040
influence this is not about military

3268
02:05:25,669 --> 02:05:24,000
power mind is the battlefield

3269
02:05:27,350 --> 02:05:25,679
do we have enough power to discern who

3270
02:05:29,030 --> 02:05:27,360
is coming to our shores

3271
02:05:30,550 --> 02:05:29,040
you know the natives

3272
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:30,560
natives lost everything when that

3273
02:05:35,589 --> 02:05:32,480
happened he's talking about when the

3274
02:05:37,109 --> 02:05:35,599
spaniards came native americans to the

3275
02:05:39,350 --> 02:05:37,119
white man

3276
02:05:40,790 --> 02:05:39,360
how do we respond

3277
02:05:42,470 --> 02:05:40,800
cautious

3278
02:05:44,390 --> 02:05:42,480
careful

3279
02:05:46,229 --> 02:05:44,400
you know visitors prove to me you're

3280
02:05:48,470 --> 02:05:46,239
good who invited you here under what

3281
02:05:50,229 --> 02:05:48,480
authority are you here nobody

3282
02:05:52,149 --> 02:05:50,239
nobody here who was here to help us

3283
02:05:54,149 --> 02:05:52,159
would act like this if humanity wants to

3284
02:05:56,629 --> 02:05:54,159
be wise and careful natives of this

3285
02:05:58,310 --> 02:05:56,639
world and it is our world you know don't

3286
02:06:00,069 --> 02:05:58,320
believe anything they say we need to

3287
02:06:02,629 --> 02:06:00,079
decide under what circumstances other

3288
02:06:04,069 --> 02:06:02,639
races can visit here intervention is

3289
02:06:06,550 --> 02:06:04,079
here to undermine the power of the

3290
02:06:08,790 --> 02:06:06,560
people to establish their power

3291
02:06:10,709 --> 02:06:08,800
don't accept et tech it would only be

3292
02:06:12,390 --> 02:06:10,719
given to intoxicate us

3293
02:06:14,149 --> 02:06:12,400
once one nation gets it and another

3294
02:06:15,910 --> 02:06:14,159
doesn't you know it's not good

3295
02:06:19,109 --> 02:06:15,920
plus in our current state we'll turn it

3296
02:06:21,109 --> 02:06:19,119
into weapons we all know that's true

3297
02:06:24,069 --> 02:06:21,119
we want to exploit the technology

3298
02:06:25,910 --> 02:06:24,079
exploit it exploit it

3299
02:06:28,069 --> 02:06:25,920
making a deal with them will be like

3300
02:06:29,750 --> 02:06:28,079
selling us all down the river that offer

3301
02:06:32,149 --> 02:06:29,760
is only there for them to implant

3302
02:06:34,310 --> 02:06:32,159
themselves with us and us with them we

3303
02:06:35,990 --> 02:06:34,320
need earth-based solutions if we leave

3304
02:06:38,470 --> 02:06:36,000
it up to them they'll take over the

3305
02:06:40,950 --> 02:06:38,480
world we're not mature enough or unified

3306
02:06:43,030 --> 02:06:40,960
enough for contact that really makes so

3307
02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:43,040
much sense i mean

3308
02:06:46,550 --> 02:06:45,040
it makes too much sense you know we're

3309
02:06:48,709 --> 02:06:46,560
not unified we're not mature as a

3310
02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:48,719
species uh something that doesn't feel

3311
02:06:52,149 --> 02:06:50,320
right to him something feels off on this

3312
02:06:54,390 --> 02:06:52,159
planet something else is here another

3313
02:06:56,709 --> 02:06:54,400
influence power if you don't feel that

3314
02:06:58,149 --> 02:06:56,719
if you don't feel that it's fine

3315
02:07:00,149 --> 02:06:58,159
intervention we're almost done

3316
02:07:02,149 --> 02:07:00,159
intervention will happen sooner or later

3317
02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:02,159
it's inevitable you know the natives

3318
02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:04,000
deluded themselves by having their own

3319
02:07:07,510 --> 02:07:05,040
narratives

3320
02:07:09,669 --> 02:07:07,520
intervention wants to make themselves

3321
02:07:11,589 --> 02:07:09,679
so powerful we have no chance well

3322
02:07:13,270 --> 02:07:11,599
that's not true he wants to make you

3323
02:07:14,870 --> 02:07:13,280
know intervention wants these beings

3324
02:07:16,550 --> 02:07:14,880
want to make themselves seem so powerful

3325
02:07:18,149 --> 02:07:16,560
that we have no chance again against

3326
02:07:20,470 --> 02:07:18,159
them it's not true

3327
02:07:22,470 --> 02:07:20,480
but an invasion is not allowed in this

3328
02:07:24,550 --> 02:07:22,480
part of the galaxy so

3329
02:07:26,629 --> 02:07:24,560
according to the allies of humanity so

3330
02:07:27,830 --> 02:07:26,639
they have to use other means we can

3331
02:07:30,470 --> 02:07:27,840
still resist

3332
02:07:32,950 --> 02:07:30,480
but need to stop being ignorant and we

3333
02:07:35,030 --> 02:07:32,960
have the ability to get it by going

3334
02:07:36,149 --> 02:07:35,040
within and responding wisely and

3335
02:07:37,830 --> 02:07:36,159
carefully

3336
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:37,840
meditation in other words it's always

3337
02:07:42,629 --> 02:07:40,560
about meditation it seems

3338
02:07:44,310 --> 02:07:42,639
we do not understand alien intelligence

3339
02:07:45,830 --> 02:07:44,320
or where they come from but by looking

3340
02:07:48,629 --> 02:07:45,840
at their behavior we can see they're

3341
02:07:51,510 --> 02:07:48,639
here for themselves and not us

3342
02:07:53,669 --> 02:07:51,520
exercise great caution if we if we

3343
02:07:55,589 --> 02:07:53,679
respond in a resistant manner they will

3344
02:07:57,910 --> 02:07:55,599
have to withdraw it's a rule of

3345
02:08:00,470 --> 02:07:57,920
engagement in our local universe we

3346
02:08:02,390 --> 02:08:00,480
can't rely on the ally briefing allies

3347
02:08:04,390 --> 02:08:02,400
briefings alone they just fill in the

3348
02:08:07,270 --> 02:08:04,400
gaps for what we cannot see

3349
02:08:08,950 --> 02:08:07,280
will we acquiesce will we fall apart

3350
02:08:11,270 --> 02:08:08,960
will we unite

3351
02:08:13,030 --> 02:08:11,280
you know blessings and power is within

3352
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:13,040
us everyone in the universe is looking

3353
02:08:17,270 --> 02:08:14,400
for resources

3354
02:08:18,390 --> 02:08:17,280
matches what i was told everyone is here

3355
02:08:20,149 --> 02:08:18,400
you know

3356
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:20,159
they want something from us that's what

3357
02:08:23,430 --> 02:08:21,599
i was told

3358
02:08:25,510 --> 02:08:23,440
so everyone in the universe is looking

3359
02:08:26,709 --> 02:08:25,520
for resources just like the ones who are

3360
02:08:29,270 --> 02:08:26,719
here

3361
02:08:31,350 --> 02:08:29,280
and we are one of the resources

3362
02:08:32,790 --> 02:08:31,360
resist

3363
02:08:34,709 --> 02:08:32,800
you know what i forgot i have the

3364
02:08:37,430 --> 02:08:34,719
blumenthal lecture and i cannot skip i

3365
02:08:40,550 --> 02:08:37,440
cannot skip ralph so

3366
02:08:42,950 --> 02:08:40,560
any quick questions or thoughts about

3367
02:08:45,589 --> 02:08:42,960
summers who i really like like i said i

3368
02:08:48,629 --> 02:08:45,599
would love to interview him

3369
02:08:52,310 --> 02:08:48,639
let me just fix this one thing

3370
02:08:55,430 --> 02:08:52,320
now look at your any questions here

3371
02:08:57,750 --> 02:08:55,440
you just fix ralph blumenthal i

3372
02:08:59,109 --> 02:08:57,760
i think it's really important

3373
02:09:01,910 --> 02:08:59,119
doesn't mean it's true but he's giving

3374
02:09:03,669 --> 02:09:01,920
away all of those books for free

3375
02:09:07,350 --> 02:09:03,679
he's a he is a prolific writer though

3376
02:09:09,589 --> 02:09:07,360
and his son does lectures on this too

3377
02:09:11,669 --> 02:09:09,599
talking ralph blumenthal lecture so let

3378
02:09:18,149 --> 02:09:11,679
me just see any questions

3379
02:09:22,149 --> 02:09:20,310
i mean i don't have any answers i just i

3380
02:09:27,589 --> 02:09:22,159
do yeah lucy i find this interesting his

3381
02:09:27,599 --> 02:09:31,350
truly has nothing to say

3382
02:09:35,990 --> 02:09:32,310
yo

3383
02:09:40,470 --> 02:09:37,910
all right let me get to ralph sorry i

3384
02:09:46,310 --> 02:09:40,480
didn't realize ralph was next

3385
02:09:51,990 --> 02:09:48,069
in one second so

3386
02:09:55,350 --> 02:09:52,000
ralph he was better in the panel

3387
02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:55,360
but he did talk a little

3388
02:10:00,709 --> 02:09:57,040
document that

3389
02:10:07,990 --> 02:10:02,310
well they were convinced was real you'll

3390
02:10:11,830 --> 02:10:09,189
there we go

3391
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:13,669
how should responsible professional news

3392
02:10:20,790 --> 02:10:14,400
media

3393
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:20,800
according to us experts

3394
02:10:25,669 --> 02:10:23,520
almost all are certain that they're 18

3395
02:10:27,750 --> 02:10:25,679
origin and ralph goes what experts and

3396
02:10:31,510 --> 02:10:27,760
ralph worked on the article in 2017 with

3397
02:10:32,950 --> 02:10:31,520
helene cooper and leslie keane

3398
02:10:35,430 --> 02:10:32,960
uh be careful there's too much

3399
02:10:37,510 --> 02:10:35,440
speculation and information many times

3400
02:10:40,390 --> 02:10:37,520
by our government the internet is the

3401
02:10:41,750 --> 02:10:40,400
wild west lots of misinformation lots of

3402
02:10:45,510 --> 02:10:41,760
bad information

3403
02:10:48,149 --> 02:10:45,520
so 2017 new york times a tip they only

3404
02:10:49,510 --> 02:10:48,159
used name sources on the record

3405
02:10:51,510 --> 02:10:49,520
that's a good way to start for people

3406
02:10:53,830 --> 02:10:51,520
new to this uh reporters journalists

3407
02:10:55,669 --> 02:10:53,840
good procedure people in this field it's

3408
02:10:57,990 --> 02:10:55,679
far too easy to ascribe info to

3409
02:11:00,310 --> 02:10:58,000
anonymous sources makes the info less

3410
02:11:02,790 --> 02:11:00,320
reliable

3411
02:11:04,790 --> 02:11:02,800
i understand that but i have some really

3412
02:11:07,030 --> 02:11:04,800
good sources that want to stay anonymous

3413
02:11:10,149 --> 02:11:07,040
so i share what i can

3414
02:11:12,069 --> 02:11:10,159
and always have the caveat you know

3415
02:11:14,310 --> 02:11:12,079
use your discernment

3416
02:11:16,069 --> 02:11:14,320
so the first meeting they had with

3417
02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:16,079
lou and the others leslie attended me

3418
02:11:20,629 --> 02:11:18,880
attended the meeting

3419
02:11:22,709 --> 02:11:20,639
and a tip he says at started

3420
02:11:27,669 --> 02:11:22,719
investigating navy sightings in 2007

3421
02:11:32,950 --> 02:11:29,990
secret funds by senator reid and lou

3422
02:11:34,629 --> 02:11:32,960
directed it and leslie found out

3423
02:11:35,990 --> 02:11:34,639
that lou was resigning because he wasn't

3424
02:11:37,669 --> 02:11:36,000
getting support from the government but

3425
02:11:39,510 --> 02:11:37,679
nobody told mattis and they were afraid

3426
02:11:42,149 --> 02:11:39,520
because this whole topic is fraught with

3427
02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:42,159
conor controversy and nobody told mattis

3428
02:11:46,390 --> 02:11:44,159
lou was resigning

3429
02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:46,400
so he uses uh

3430
02:11:51,270 --> 02:11:48,880
they used name sources and documents

3431
02:11:52,709 --> 02:11:51,280
to put that article article together had

3432
02:11:54,229 --> 02:11:52,719
no problem getting the new york times

3433
02:11:55,910 --> 02:11:54,239
interested because the info was nailed

3434
02:11:57,510 --> 02:11:55,920
down and there were no anonymous sources

3435
02:11:59,030 --> 02:11:57,520
plus helene cooper was able to get

3436
02:12:01,189 --> 02:11:59,040
information her from her pentagon

3437
02:12:03,589 --> 02:12:01,199
sources which made it and what made it

3438
02:12:05,669 --> 02:12:03,599
more interesting was the three videos

3439
02:12:07,589 --> 02:12:05,679
uh followed up with an article with ryan

3440
02:12:09,430 --> 02:12:07,599
graves and the near-misses with pilots

3441
02:12:11,669 --> 02:12:09,440
then an article from defense consultant

3442
02:12:13,270 --> 02:12:11,679
dr eric davis who gave classified

3443
02:12:14,709 --> 02:12:13,280
briefings to the senate committees and

3444
02:12:16,550 --> 02:12:14,719
dod on

3445
02:12:19,270 --> 02:12:16,560
retrievals crashes from off-world

3446
02:12:24,069 --> 02:12:21,990
crashes yeah crashes from retrievals

3447
02:12:26,229 --> 02:12:24,079
crashes from off-world vehicles not made

3448
02:12:28,229 --> 02:12:26,239
on this earth

3449
02:12:30,069 --> 02:12:28,239
some on the internet were criticizing

3450
02:12:32,629 --> 02:12:30,079
the new york times and writing stories

3451
02:12:35,430 --> 02:12:32,639
on what the new york times could have

3452
02:12:37,990 --> 02:12:35,440
written or was going to write that was

3453
02:12:40,390 --> 02:12:38,000
me i wrote my mega blog and

3454
02:12:42,709 --> 02:12:40,400
i am i have no doubt they were working

3455
02:12:44,629 --> 02:12:42,719
all on all of this but it didn't make it

3456
02:12:47,270 --> 02:12:44,639
into their article

3457
02:12:48,470 --> 02:12:47,280
i i didn't criticize them i know

3458
02:12:50,069 --> 02:12:48,480
for a fact

3459
02:12:52,870 --> 02:12:50,079
that somebody involved with that whole

3460
02:12:55,430 --> 02:12:52,880
process was really pissed off when that

3461
02:12:57,910 --> 02:12:55,440
article was cut to shreds so

3462
02:12:58,790 --> 02:12:57,920
no doubt multiple sources on that

3463
02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:58,800
so

3464
02:13:04,229 --> 02:13:01,199
yeah that editor based in washington

3465
02:13:05,910 --> 02:13:04,239
washington dc was not into ufos not

3466
02:13:08,950 --> 02:13:05,920
friendly to the subject so a lot of it

3467
02:13:11,510 --> 02:13:08,960
was taken out i don't blame ralph leslie

3468
02:13:14,629 --> 02:13:11,520
or helene cooper never i believe you

3469
02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:14,639
know the editor that i'm talking about

3470
02:13:18,629 --> 02:13:17,199
so yeah i don't know if ralph just blew

3471
02:13:20,310 --> 02:13:18,639
it up because he's so experienced this

3472
02:13:22,470 --> 02:13:20,320
is how things are but

3473
02:13:24,629 --> 02:13:22,480
somebody else was not happy so he

3474
02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:24,639
mentions the dni uap report you know

3475
02:13:28,229 --> 02:13:26,400
they don't mention aliens but

3476
02:13:29,669 --> 02:13:28,239
he doesn't think the government has been

3477
02:13:31,830 --> 02:13:29,679
looking really hard for that evidence at

3478
02:13:34,470 --> 02:13:31,840
least not officially no standardized

3479
02:13:37,030 --> 02:13:34,480
reporting on uap until the navy in 2019

3480
02:13:38,550 --> 02:13:37,040
and then the air force in 2020

3481
02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:38,560
you know they're probably just playing

3482
02:13:45,750 --> 02:13:40,480
with words because they've investigated

3483
02:13:47,589 --> 02:13:45,760
since project saucer in 1949 48.

3484
02:13:50,149 --> 02:13:47,599
you know guys i i need to take like a

3485
02:13:51,830 --> 02:13:50,159
five minute

3486
02:13:54,390 --> 02:13:51,840
no i'll just

3487
02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:55,830
give me one second

3488
02:14:26,390 --> 02:13:58,400
i'll be right back we're gonna have

3489
02:14:32,790 --> 02:14:28,149
all right sorry

3490
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:37,430
we can deal with that

3491
02:14:41,109 --> 02:14:39,189
so it was investigated since project

3492
02:14:43,109 --> 02:14:41,119
saucer in 1948 and then project blue

3493
02:14:44,870 --> 02:14:43,119
book

3494
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:44,880
kind of ridiculous for the uap task

3495
02:14:48,390 --> 02:14:47,440
force to say what they said

3496
02:14:49,830 --> 02:14:48,400
you know

3497
02:14:51,350 --> 02:14:49,840
it's just unknown we don't know what it

3498
02:14:53,830 --> 02:14:51,360
is but he goes but facts are stubborn

3499
02:14:56,229 --> 02:14:53,840
things 144 reports of incidents between

3500
02:14:58,069 --> 02:14:56,239
two of 2004 221

3501
02:14:59,510 --> 02:14:58,079
one was the weather weather balloon

3502
02:15:01,669 --> 02:14:59,520
explained 18 unusual flight

3503
02:15:03,990 --> 02:15:01,679
characteristics i mean we know all of

3504
02:15:05,189 --> 02:15:04,000
this the signal management few close

3505
02:15:07,030 --> 02:15:05,199
calls

3506
02:15:08,550 --> 02:15:07,040
five categories ending with other no

3507
02:15:11,109 --> 02:15:08,560
mention of aliens how they got here

3508
02:15:13,350 --> 02:15:11,119
where they're from

3509
02:15:15,910 --> 02:15:13,360
and then he says in the report it says

3510
02:15:18,709 --> 02:15:15,920
must most of the uap reported

3511
02:15:21,189 --> 02:15:18,719
probably do represent physical objects

3512
02:15:22,470 --> 02:15:21,199
and blumenthal thinks that his huge he

3513
02:15:23,830 --> 02:15:22,480
goes because

3514
02:15:29,430 --> 02:15:23,840
probably because

3515
02:15:32,950 --> 02:15:31,189
the report basically said it's not our

3516
02:15:34,709 --> 02:15:32,960
tech you know why would they fly there's

3517
02:15:35,830 --> 02:15:34,719
our secret technique or our guys

3518
02:15:37,910 --> 02:15:35,840
training

3519
02:15:40,069 --> 02:15:37,920
doesn't think you know the report says

3520
02:15:41,510 --> 02:15:40,079
basically ruled out adversaries and

3521
02:15:43,270 --> 02:15:41,520
ralph's like they wouldn't do it either

3522
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:43,280
why would they risk their technology you

3523
02:15:46,709 --> 02:15:44,560
know crash and cause an incident

3524
02:15:48,830 --> 02:15:46,719
whatever it is

3525
02:15:51,830 --> 02:15:48,840
ralph says everybody we

3526
02:15:54,709 --> 02:15:51,840
consulted nobody thought it was us or a

3527
02:15:56,069 --> 02:15:54,719
foreign adversary that had this tech

3528
02:15:59,750 --> 02:15:56,079
you know they're able to disappear at

3529
02:16:01,990 --> 02:15:59,760
will high speeds in and out of the water

3530
02:16:03,589 --> 02:16:02,000
you know other but then it's a big jump

3531
02:16:05,030 --> 02:16:03,599
to alien and when you but when you run

3532
02:16:07,270 --> 02:16:05,040
out of all possibilities whatever

3533
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:07,280
remains must be the truth talks about

3534
02:16:11,030 --> 02:16:09,199
john mack

3535
02:16:14,550 --> 02:16:11,040
so john max that thought that

3536
02:16:16,069 --> 02:16:14,560
experiences were not deranged

3537
02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:16,079
thought they were completely normal and

3538
02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:18,000
they were from all levels of society

3539
02:16:22,229 --> 02:16:19,520
cops teachers

3540
02:16:24,390 --> 02:16:22,239
not publicity seekers they were deeply

3541
02:16:27,030 --> 02:16:24,400
ashamed and they shouldn't have been and

3542
02:16:28,470 --> 02:16:27,040
they only came forward reluctantly

3543
02:16:30,229 --> 02:16:28,480
this is something i did not know about

3544
02:16:32,629 --> 02:16:30,239
max cases there were children as young

3545
02:16:34,790 --> 02:16:32,639
as two years old saying a little man

3546
02:16:37,349 --> 02:16:34,800
took me up in the sky

3547
02:16:40,150 --> 02:16:37,359
many had scars that healed very quickly

3548
02:16:41,669 --> 02:16:40,160
many saw ufos before their encounters

3549
02:16:43,669 --> 02:16:41,679
sometimes there was physical evidence

3550
02:16:45,669 --> 02:16:43,679
like broken branches or trees where the

3551
02:16:47,429 --> 02:16:45,679
ufo supposedly came down

3552
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:47,439
some had other witnesses for example

3553
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:49,200
there was a mother who checked on her

3554
02:16:51,830 --> 02:16:50,960
girls one night and they they were not

3555
02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:51,840
there

3556
02:16:56,070 --> 02:16:53,599
she panicked called the cops thinking

3557
02:16:58,230 --> 02:16:56,080
they were abducted by humans you know

3558
02:16:59,669 --> 02:16:58,240
somebody somebody kidnapped them

3559
02:17:01,509 --> 02:16:59,679
panicked a few hours later they were

3560
02:17:02,870 --> 02:17:01,519
back in their bed with stories of seeing

3561
02:17:06,150 --> 02:17:02,880
ufos

3562
02:17:08,150 --> 02:17:06,160
loss of memories typical

3563
02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:08,160
and these experiences as we all know do

3564
02:17:11,830 --> 02:17:09,679
not just happen at night so sleep

3565
02:17:13,509 --> 02:17:11,840
paralysis cannot explain that this is

3566
02:17:16,150 --> 02:17:13,519
ralph saying all of this

3567
02:17:18,230 --> 02:17:16,160
some happened in broad daylight one case

3568
02:17:19,830 --> 02:17:18,240
was somebody on a snowmobile in the

3569
02:17:21,830 --> 02:17:19,840
forest

3570
02:17:23,910 --> 02:17:21,840
mack thought it happened in happened in

3571
02:17:25,190 --> 02:17:23,920
some dimension of reality and it's still

3572
02:17:26,950 --> 02:17:25,200
going on

3573
02:17:28,309 --> 02:17:26,960
ralph says he's interviewed

3574
02:17:30,549 --> 02:17:28,319
interviewing a number of these folks

3575
02:17:32,709 --> 02:17:30,559
there's no explanation no answer

3576
02:17:34,870 --> 02:17:32,719
despite skeptics saying sleep paralysis

3577
02:17:37,030 --> 02:17:34,880
mental illness and publicity seeking

3578
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:37,040
which he doesn't agree mentions william

3579
02:17:41,270 --> 02:17:39,040
crooks

3580
02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:41,280
i think he invented valium but i came

3581
02:17:45,910 --> 02:17:44,080
across him when i read a book about uh

3582
02:17:47,349 --> 02:17:45,920
the best book on the afterlife in

3583
02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:47,359
mediums called

3584
02:17:51,110 --> 02:17:49,120
ghost hunters

3585
02:17:53,030 --> 02:17:51,120
by deborah bloom

3586
02:17:55,030 --> 02:17:53,040
such a great book

3587
02:17:57,429 --> 02:17:55,040
on the guys who researched the the

3588
02:17:59,270 --> 02:17:57,439
really bright scientists who researched

3589
02:18:01,030 --> 02:17:59,280
life after death and mediums back in the

3590
02:18:03,349 --> 02:18:01,040
1800s

3591
02:18:05,429 --> 02:18:03,359
ralph says crooks came away dumbfounded

3592
02:18:07,669 --> 02:18:05,439
when he was investigating sciences he

3593
02:18:11,030 --> 02:18:07,679
said the quote i never said it was

3594
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:11,040
possible i said only i only said that it

3595
02:18:15,429 --> 02:18:14,240
was true then he mentions charles fort

3596
02:18:19,270 --> 02:18:15,439
40 in

3597
02:18:23,349 --> 02:18:21,030
the quote from fort says it's like

3598
02:18:25,830 --> 02:18:23,359
looking for a neil that no one ever lost

3599
02:18:27,589 --> 02:18:25,840
in a haystack that never was

3600
02:18:30,150 --> 02:18:27,599
and ralph thinks it's a mistake to call

3601
02:18:32,790 --> 02:18:30,160
ufos alien spaceships period until a

3602
02:18:34,870 --> 02:18:32,800
person of high authority says that

3603
02:18:35,750 --> 02:18:34,880
anonymous sources saying it is not good

3604
02:18:37,429 --> 02:18:35,760
enough

3605
02:18:39,429 --> 02:18:37,439
well we have i don't know if eric davis

3606
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:39,439
is a high authority but he's a brilliant

3607
02:18:44,230 --> 02:18:40,960
astrophysicist

3608
02:18:49,030 --> 02:18:44,240
physicist and he thinks that aliens

3609
02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:49,040
not us not neces not necessarily et's

3610
02:18:51,910 --> 02:18:50,319
are here

3611
02:18:54,469 --> 02:18:51,920
ralph talks about the classified annex

3612
02:18:56,629 --> 02:18:54,479
and how it may help us establish origins

3613
02:18:58,070 --> 02:18:56,639
and the nature of these beings

3614
02:19:00,950 --> 02:18:58,080
other media should stick to the facts

3615
02:19:02,549 --> 02:19:00,960
and report as always speculation is rife

3616
02:19:04,549 --> 02:19:02,559
on the internet stick to what can be

3617
02:19:06,309 --> 02:19:04,559
established

3618
02:19:08,309 --> 02:19:06,319
these objects are physical and can do

3619
02:19:10,230 --> 02:19:08,319
things we're not capable of they can

3620
02:19:12,549 --> 02:19:10,240
operate underwater you know they have

3621
02:19:14,870 --> 02:19:12,559
astounding speeds

3622
02:19:17,190 --> 02:19:14,880
that's sensational enough

3623
02:19:18,950 --> 02:19:17,200
where they come where do they come from

3624
02:19:20,950 --> 02:19:18,960
are they intelligent

3625
02:19:23,030 --> 02:19:20,960
that's assuming they are coming here

3626
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:23,040
he's still a little hesitant but you

3627
02:19:26,389 --> 02:19:25,120
know i understand

3628
02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:26,399
but some of the stuff he talks about is

3629
02:19:30,389 --> 02:19:28,160
pretty cool i like that the mac stories

3630
02:19:32,070 --> 02:19:30,399
he shared

3631
02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:32,080
so that change in the navy policy where

3632
02:19:34,790 --> 02:19:33,439
they can actually report their their

3633
02:19:35,750 --> 02:19:34,800
sightings was huge you know you don't

3634
02:19:38,469 --> 02:19:35,760
got to worry about going to the

3635
02:19:39,990 --> 02:19:38,479
psychiatrist uh officially the pentagon

3636
02:19:41,349 --> 02:19:40,000
is urging people to come forward we need

3637
02:19:42,709 --> 02:19:41,359
to get this information because we're

3638
02:19:44,549 --> 02:19:42,719
entitled to it

3639
02:19:46,790 --> 02:19:44,559
now he sounds like sheehan history of

3640
02:19:50,309 --> 02:19:46,800
government on ufos is not a happy one

3641
02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:50,319
disinformation denial you know

3642
02:19:53,990 --> 02:19:52,080
you saw what you couldn't see you know

3643
02:19:56,870 --> 02:19:54,000
they told vets world war ii you didn't

3644
02:19:58,230 --> 02:19:56,880
see that they discredited ufo groups

3645
02:20:01,349 --> 02:19:58,240
he was working for the new york times in

3646
02:20:03,190 --> 02:20:01,359
2004 in texas as a correspondent and he

3647
02:20:04,630 --> 02:20:03,200
stumbled upon john mack's passport to

3648
02:20:06,630 --> 02:20:04,640
the cosmos

3649
02:20:08,550 --> 02:20:06,640
he thought he he had discovered mac he's

3650
02:20:10,870 --> 02:20:08,560
like oh my god nobody knows about john

3651
02:20:12,309 --> 02:20:10,880
mack the world needs to know he wanted

3652
02:20:15,270 --> 02:20:12,319
to interview him but then a few days

3653
02:20:17,429 --> 02:20:15,280
later mack was killed when a car hit him

3654
02:20:18,230 --> 02:20:17,439
in london when he looked the wrong way

3655
02:20:20,389 --> 02:20:18,240
so

3656
02:20:22,710 --> 02:20:20,399
blumenthal approached mac's family and

3657
02:20:25,270 --> 02:20:22,720
received all of mac's material including

3658
02:20:27,750 --> 02:20:25,280
journals with his private thoughts

3659
02:20:29,429 --> 02:20:27,760
and he also interviewed the family

3660
02:20:30,630 --> 02:20:29,439
he mentions that helene cooper when she

3661
02:20:32,230 --> 02:20:30,640
would walk down the halls in the new

3662
02:20:34,550 --> 02:20:32,240
york times people would like make the

3663
02:20:36,070 --> 02:20:34,560
noise funny x-files music

3664
02:20:38,230 --> 02:20:36,080
but then when she showed them the videos

3665
02:20:40,230 --> 02:20:38,240
that stopped

3666
02:20:41,990 --> 02:20:40,240
he thinks we need to study experiences

3667
02:20:44,389 --> 02:20:42,000
study their brains need to find out why

3668
02:20:46,469 --> 02:20:44,399
some do not have experiences

3669
02:20:48,070 --> 02:20:46,479
you know he hasn't although if you read

3670
02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:48,080
that article from a few months back he

3671
02:20:51,670 --> 02:20:49,680
did have some sort of experience before

3672
02:20:53,510 --> 02:20:51,680
his article came out on mac

3673
02:20:58,870 --> 02:20:53,520
i i forget exactly what happened i think

3674
02:20:58,880 --> 02:21:05,030
mac's final conclusion

3675
02:21:08,630 --> 02:21:06,710
and by the way mack also looked into

3676
02:21:10,790 --> 02:21:08,640
crop circles and near that's experiences

3677
02:21:13,270 --> 02:21:10,800
near the end of his life but his final

3678
02:21:14,870 --> 02:21:13,280
final conclusion on some level in some

3679
02:21:17,830 --> 02:21:14,880
dimension of reality that we don't

3680
02:21:19,349 --> 02:21:17,840
understand these experiences happen mack

3681
02:21:21,030 --> 02:21:19,359
believed it was because the stories they

3682
02:21:22,870 --> 02:21:21,040
told

3683
02:21:24,630 --> 02:21:22,880
mac went on to believe that because of

3684
02:21:25,590 --> 02:21:24,640
the stories they told him and other

3685
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:25,600
evidence

3686
02:21:29,910 --> 02:21:28,080
that ralph mentioned earlier bloomin

3687
02:21:32,309 --> 02:21:29,920
blumenthal would like to see a ufo and

3688
02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:32,319
like to know the answers to this mystery

3689
02:21:36,469 --> 02:21:34,000
some people claim to be able to call

3690
02:21:39,190 --> 02:21:36,479
ufos down summon them he mentions the

3691
02:21:41,910 --> 02:21:39,200
betty benny and barney hill from the 60s

3692
02:21:43,830 --> 02:21:41,920
as the touchstone case of abduction

3693
02:21:46,230 --> 02:21:43,840
writings matt writing mac's book has

3694
02:21:48,469 --> 02:21:46,240
opened his mind to anomalous events i

3695
02:21:50,790 --> 02:21:48,479
understand that things remain mysterious

3696
02:21:52,630 --> 02:21:50,800
and unlike skeptics and debunkers who

3697
02:21:55,750 --> 02:21:52,640
have not done their homework mentions

3698
02:21:57,990 --> 02:21:55,760
the harvard conference and the uh

3699
02:22:00,710 --> 02:21:58,000
and the alien abduction topic cover from

3700
02:22:02,870 --> 02:22:00,720
various standpoints he goes show me a

3701
02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:02,880
skeptic that read that book the harvard

3702
02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:05,280
conference and the alien abductions and

3703
02:22:08,469 --> 02:22:06,880
go show me a skeptic that read that book

3704
02:22:11,190 --> 02:22:08,479
and understands why it's so compelling

3705
02:22:14,469 --> 02:22:11,200
and mysterious it's sleep paralysis he's

3706
02:22:17,429 --> 02:22:15,830
the question what's the most compelling

3707
02:22:18,309 --> 02:22:17,439
piece of information you found in john

3708
02:22:20,790 --> 02:22:18,319
mack's

3709
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:20,800
work and ralph says the aerial case in

3710
02:22:24,710 --> 02:22:23,120
zimbabwe he says it's a good one

3711
02:22:27,110 --> 02:22:24,720
telepathic communication with children

3712
02:22:28,950 --> 02:22:27,120
60 out of the 300 children

3713
02:22:31,830 --> 02:22:28,960
at the school told the same story drew a

3714
02:22:34,550 --> 02:22:31,840
picture of the craft and the beings

3715
02:22:36,309 --> 02:22:34,560
60 of the 300 saw it

3716
02:22:39,750 --> 02:22:36,319
coherent similar stories that were very

3717
02:22:43,590 --> 02:22:42,389
i asked a question about you know

3718
02:22:44,710 --> 02:22:43,600
what do you think about eric davis

3719
02:22:46,230 --> 02:22:44,720
talking about the crash retrieval

3720
02:22:47,349 --> 02:22:46,240
program as if it was fact and then he

3721
02:22:48,870 --> 02:22:47,359
repeated that you know that we just

3722
02:22:51,349 --> 02:22:48,880
reported what we could in the new york

3723
02:22:53,429 --> 02:22:51,359
times i put that video on my twitter i

3724
02:22:54,710 --> 02:22:53,439
don't have that transcribed here

3725
02:22:56,070 --> 02:22:54,720
he goes and then other people on the

3726
02:22:57,750 --> 02:22:56,080
internet complain that we were holding

3727
02:22:59,190 --> 02:22:57,760
back information

3728
02:23:00,309 --> 02:22:59,200
new york times article people have told

3729
02:23:02,309 --> 02:23:00,319
them their article has changed the

3730
02:23:03,910 --> 02:23:02,319
paradigm has made it possible for other

3731
02:23:08,950 --> 02:23:03,920
other reputable news organizations to

3732
02:23:13,270 --> 02:23:10,550
he thinks nasa knows more than they're

3733
02:23:15,590 --> 02:23:13,280
not sharing more than they're sharing he

3734
02:23:17,110 --> 02:23:15,600
knows he thinks nasa knows more that

3735
02:23:19,030 --> 02:23:17,120
they're not sharing

3736
02:23:20,710 --> 02:23:19,040
and bill nelson seems to be very open to

3737
02:23:22,389 --> 02:23:20,720
discussing this with all of those

3738
02:23:23,990 --> 02:23:22,399
satellites how much data have they

3739
02:23:26,389 --> 02:23:24,000
collect has been collected on these

3740
02:23:28,630 --> 02:23:26,399
objects coming into our atmosphere

3741
02:23:30,710 --> 02:23:28,640
these questions need to be answered

3742
02:23:32,630 --> 02:23:30,720
nasa which has not been forthcoming

3743
02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:32,640
should know a lot and he mentions other

3744
02:23:37,429 --> 02:23:35,359
countries france and belgium in the uk

3745
02:23:40,230 --> 02:23:37,439
and brazil i'm not sure uk but they've

3746
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:40,240
been more open less inhibitions uh they

3747
02:23:44,550 --> 02:23:42,000
form communities and leslie talked to

3748
02:23:46,870 --> 02:23:44,560
foreign generals in her book chile

3749
02:23:49,590 --> 02:23:46,880
not as stigmatized and he mentions valet

3750
02:23:51,429 --> 02:23:49,600
dolan hastings and books by experiencers

3751
02:23:53,429 --> 02:23:51,439
and one experiencer who spoke to max

3752
02:23:55,190 --> 02:23:53,439
said people who think that beings are

3753
02:23:57,429 --> 02:23:55,200
coming from far away

3754
02:23:59,830 --> 02:23:57,439
uh

3755
02:24:02,469 --> 02:23:59,840
no he goes the universe is unfolding on

3756
02:24:04,630 --> 02:24:02,479
itself and they're right next to us

3757
02:24:06,630 --> 02:24:04,640
ralph says is that true i don't know but

3758
02:24:09,830 --> 02:24:06,640
we know the universe is curved and

3759
02:24:11,429 --> 02:24:09,840
there's maybe one more than one universe

3760
02:24:14,389 --> 02:24:11,439
somebody says mark sims offered you a

3761
02:24:16,230 --> 02:24:14,399
chance at a ce5 experience and he goes

3762
02:24:19,270 --> 02:24:16,240
it wasn't through thrill they go oh okay

3763
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:19,280
i'll take it and that was it

3764
02:24:25,270 --> 02:24:22,240
so now for the main event

3765
02:24:27,349 --> 02:24:25,280
the big panel which i will get my wigs

3766
02:24:29,590 --> 02:24:27,359
and costumes out

3767
02:24:31,030 --> 02:24:29,600
now and just change this

3768
02:24:32,630 --> 02:24:31,040
it's one of my favorite panels i think

3769
02:24:34,550 --> 02:24:32,640
i've ever seen maybe you guys won't

3770
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:34,560
agree we'll see maybe i over hyped it

3771
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:37,840
but i mean i really liked it

3772
02:24:45,429 --> 02:24:39,680
and so it would be

3773
02:24:45,439 --> 02:24:48,790
blumenthal

3774
02:24:52,710 --> 02:24:50,070
sorry guys

3775
02:25:02,389 --> 02:24:52,720
and dolin

3776
02:25:07,030 --> 02:25:03,670
there's more people but those are the

3777
02:25:10,630 --> 02:25:08,630
ralph starts out

3778
02:25:13,510 --> 02:25:10,640
he says and i know he's saying this

3779
02:25:15,830 --> 02:25:13,520
because marshall summers is on the panel

3780
02:25:22,830 --> 02:25:15,840
a channeler

3781
02:25:27,429 --> 02:25:25,429
so he says it's hard enough to get the

3782
02:25:29,750 --> 02:25:27,439
new york times to pay attention to

3783
02:25:32,389 --> 02:25:29,760
uh the uap report that these objects are

3784
02:25:34,469 --> 02:25:32,399
physically they physically exist

3785
02:25:36,790 --> 02:25:34,479
but to go on to talk about communication

3786
02:25:39,110 --> 02:25:36,800
with ets is very tough to take to the

3787
02:25:41,830 --> 02:25:39,120
mainstream media that's why we stick to

3788
02:25:43,750 --> 02:25:41,840
the facts and use on the record sources

3789
02:25:45,349 --> 02:25:43,760
talking about et's on the dark side of

3790
02:25:48,150 --> 02:25:45,359
the moon turns off a lot of people and

3791
02:25:50,389 --> 02:25:48,160
it's impossible to verify danny's like i

3792
02:25:51,990 --> 02:25:50,399
understand i understand but we can't

3793
02:25:53,910 --> 02:25:52,000
wait for the new york times and you

3794
02:25:55,349 --> 02:25:53,920
wrote about john mack and humans

3795
02:25:56,950 --> 02:25:55,359
claiming to have experiences with

3796
02:25:58,710 --> 02:25:56,960
non-humans

3797
02:26:00,790 --> 02:25:58,720
exactly

3798
02:26:02,309 --> 02:26:00,800
so then dolan says

3799
02:26:04,070 --> 02:26:02,319
just start with the classified documents

3800
02:26:07,030 --> 02:26:04,080
we can't ignore earlier sightings and

3801
02:26:08,469 --> 02:26:07,040
dramatic memos via foia in the 70s that

3802
02:26:10,230 --> 02:26:08,479
prove the united states government has

3803
02:26:11,670 --> 02:26:10,240
been deeply concerned to the point of

3804
02:26:13,750 --> 02:26:11,680
close to panic

3805
02:26:15,830 --> 02:26:13,760
no no mainstream outlet has taken on

3806
02:26:19,750 --> 02:26:15,840
that part of the story you know january

3807
02:26:21,190 --> 02:26:19,760
1949 fbi object over white sands 9 000

3808
02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:21,200
miles per hour

3809
02:26:25,270 --> 02:26:22,800
and blumenthal goes

3810
02:26:26,870 --> 02:26:25,280
i agree you know

3811
02:26:28,389 --> 02:26:26,880
that a lot of this relies on government

3812
02:26:31,110 --> 02:26:28,399
documentation you know we had lou's

3813
02:26:33,429 --> 02:26:31,120
documentation his letter of resignation

3814
02:26:35,349 --> 02:26:33,439
with proper sourcing these stories can

3815
02:26:37,110 --> 02:26:35,359
stories can get into the paper

3816
02:26:39,270 --> 02:26:37,120
but in some of the work that we've done

3817
02:26:41,190 --> 02:26:39,280
there's much debate over the authentic

3818
02:26:43,590 --> 02:26:41,200
nature of certain documents plus this

3819
02:26:45,750 --> 02:26:43,600
information one document we were

3820
02:26:48,309 --> 02:26:45,760
convinced was real i won't say which

3821
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:48,319
document but then found out that some of

3822
02:26:53,510 --> 02:26:50,160
it wasn't accurate

3823
02:26:54,710 --> 02:26:53,520
or authentic i

3824
02:26:56,950 --> 02:26:54,720
i think that's a

3825
02:26:59,110 --> 02:26:56,960
quote accurate um

3826
02:27:00,950 --> 02:26:59,120
i'm not sure if i have that audio but i

3827
02:27:03,510 --> 02:27:00,960
will get it when i do my transcript and

3828
02:27:07,910 --> 02:27:03,520
i think i think that document is the

3829
02:27:10,150 --> 02:27:07,920
1961 snie mj12 document i have reasons

3830
02:27:12,469 --> 02:27:10,160
why i think that i don't think it's the

3831
02:27:14,230 --> 02:27:12,479
wilson davis document he's talking about

3832
02:27:18,870 --> 02:27:14,240
because i know they were working 100

3833
02:27:22,230 --> 02:27:18,880
they were working on that 1961 uh snie

3834
02:27:23,750 --> 02:27:22,240
mj 12 document which is on my blog too

3835
02:27:25,830 --> 02:27:23,760
so he's like did someone mess with a

3836
02:27:28,230 --> 02:27:25,840
legitimate document

3837
02:27:30,389 --> 02:27:28,240
he ends by saying lou is very important

3838
02:27:33,110 --> 02:27:30,399
to the process and then dolan talks

3839
02:27:35,030 --> 02:27:33,120
about 1948 project sign estimate of the

3840
02:27:37,190 --> 02:27:35,040
situation captain edward

3841
02:27:38,870 --> 02:27:37,200
rupelt knew about the project uh the

3842
02:27:39,990 --> 02:27:38,880
estimate of the situation

3843
02:27:41,750 --> 02:27:40,000
which is a

3844
02:27:44,070 --> 02:27:41,760
you know it's a batch you know it's it's

3845
02:27:45,510 --> 02:27:44,080
not a document but it's a it's a set of

3846
02:27:47,670 --> 02:27:45,520
documents

3847
02:27:50,309 --> 02:27:47,680
report was an air force officer who

3848
02:27:52,790 --> 02:27:50,319
created uh credit with was

3849
02:27:54,150 --> 02:27:52,800
rupault was an air force officer who was

3850
02:27:55,990 --> 02:27:54,160
credited with coining the term

3851
02:27:58,150 --> 02:27:56,000
unidentified flying objects which

3852
02:27:59,830 --> 02:27:58,160
replaced flying saucers he was the

3853
02:28:00,870 --> 02:27:59,840
director of project grudge and then blue

3854
02:28:03,349 --> 02:28:00,880
book

3855
02:28:04,950 --> 02:28:03,359
and then there's a guy fournier

3856
02:28:06,870 --> 02:28:04,960
i have his name later he said he

3857
02:28:09,190 --> 02:28:06,880
actually had seen the estimate of the

3858
02:28:11,190 --> 02:28:09,200
civilization

3859
02:28:12,790 --> 02:28:11,200
but it's never been produced their

3860
02:28:16,389 --> 02:28:12,800
conclusion was that we're probably

3861
02:28:18,070 --> 02:28:16,399
dealing with e.t this was 1948

3862
02:28:20,309 --> 02:28:18,080
and blumenthal thinks that story is

3863
02:28:22,550 --> 02:28:20,319
worthy of reporting but he'd rather have

3864
02:28:24,389 --> 02:28:22,560
something new from lou

3865
02:28:25,910 --> 02:28:24,399
uh and blumenthal and i agree uh

3866
02:28:28,550 --> 02:28:25,920
blumenthal we can get to that stuff

3867
02:28:30,790 --> 02:28:28,560
later on but blimp and show the cover-up

3868
02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:30,800
but blumenthal says all documents make

3869
02:28:35,270 --> 02:28:33,280
some people's eyes glaze over and some

3870
02:28:36,950 --> 02:28:35,280
can't be authenticated and some could be

3871
02:28:39,110 --> 02:28:36,960
tampered with

3872
02:28:41,030 --> 02:28:39,120
and dolan says i think a 75-year-old

3873
02:28:43,190 --> 02:28:41,040
cover-up is important for the public to

3874
02:28:44,790 --> 02:28:43,200
know about and bloomington blumenthal

3875
02:28:46,550 --> 02:28:44,800
goes i agree

3876
02:28:48,870 --> 02:28:46,560
and danny goes did you have access to

3877
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:48,880
that document lou lou says we were able

3878
02:28:57,830 --> 02:28:55,349
speaking about receiving telepathic

3879
02:29:00,309 --> 02:28:57,840
information referring to summers my

3880
02:29:02,309 --> 02:29:00,319
perspective the problem is there's no

3881
02:29:05,030 --> 02:29:02,319
way to test or prove it you're dealing

3882
02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:05,040
with interpretations of one human being

3883
02:29:09,830 --> 02:29:07,600
i suspect ralph sees it the same way so

3884
02:29:13,990 --> 02:29:09,840
there's no there there danny goes i

3885
02:29:15,750 --> 02:29:14,000
agree i agree as a lawyer and lou goes

3886
02:29:18,389 --> 02:29:15,760
i didn't have we didn't have access to

3887
02:29:20,150 --> 02:29:18,399
the estimate of the situation

3888
02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:20,160
he says but if marshall does have

3889
02:29:24,469 --> 02:29:22,960
communication with ets

3890
02:29:26,150 --> 02:29:24,479
just because they tell him something it

3891
02:29:28,070 --> 02:29:26,160
doesn't mean it's true

3892
02:29:30,150 --> 02:29:28,080
but lew says

3893
02:29:32,309 --> 02:29:30,160
humans do have amazing capabilities that

3894
02:29:34,389 --> 02:29:32,319
we might consider paranormal

3895
02:29:35,910 --> 02:29:34,399
and he mentions humans who can tolerate

3896
02:29:37,510 --> 02:29:35,920
a tremendous amount of electricity

3897
02:29:39,510 --> 02:29:37,520
without it killing them some have

3898
02:29:41,349 --> 02:29:39,520
photographic memories individuals who

3899
02:29:43,110 --> 02:29:41,359
are music virtuosos who have never

3900
02:29:45,270 --> 02:29:43,120
played a piano but can crank out

3901
02:29:47,030 --> 02:29:45,280
beautiful music and then you have human

3902
02:29:49,349 --> 02:29:47,040
intuition you know the government

3903
02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:49,359
involved themselves in that stuff it has

3904
02:29:53,030 --> 02:29:50,800
he mentions his dear colleague and

3905
02:29:54,790 --> 02:29:53,040
friend hal put off and remote viewing

3906
02:29:56,790 --> 02:29:54,800
hal was one of the godfathers who ran

3907
02:29:58,710 --> 02:29:56,800
the remote viewing program it was a

3908
02:30:00,389 --> 02:29:58,720
psychic program with espionage and the

3909
02:30:02,710 --> 02:30:00,399
russians did it too

3910
02:30:05,190 --> 02:30:02,720
they also went into psychotronic weapons

3911
02:30:07,670 --> 02:30:05,200
so basically lou explains psychotronic

3912
02:30:09,830 --> 02:30:07,680
weapons is you're using technology to

3913
02:30:11,750 --> 02:30:09,840
increase the strength of some some human

3914
02:30:14,309 --> 02:30:11,760
capability and he describes it more in

3915
02:30:16,150 --> 02:30:14,319
detail later on

3916
02:30:17,750 --> 02:30:16,160
so they also went into psychotronic

3917
02:30:20,070 --> 02:30:17,760
weapons development talking about our

3918
02:30:21,429 --> 02:30:20,080
government i think the soviets too

3919
02:30:22,710 --> 02:30:21,439
so it shouldn't be a surprise that the

3920
02:30:25,030 --> 02:30:22,720
government is interested and shouldn't

3921
02:30:27,990 --> 02:30:25,040
be surprised some have human some humans

3922
02:30:29,830 --> 02:30:28,000
have extraordinary capabilities

3923
02:30:31,590 --> 02:30:29,840
it talks about para

3924
02:30:34,230 --> 02:30:31,600
lu says i say parachute you think of a

3925
02:30:37,510 --> 02:30:34,240
device that slows you down paramedic

3926
02:30:39,270 --> 02:30:37,520
a first responder or lifesaver

3927
02:30:41,910 --> 02:30:39,280
you know it's something positive

3928
02:30:43,429 --> 02:30:41,920
paranormal people stop raise an eyebrow

3929
02:30:45,670 --> 02:30:43,439
they look at you and maybe their

3930
02:30:47,750 --> 02:30:45,680
head and one to one side and say

3931
02:30:49,429 --> 02:30:47,760
what do you mean the paranormal has a

3932
02:30:52,389 --> 02:30:49,439
stigma attached to it like anything else

3933
02:30:54,070 --> 02:30:52,399
we consider fringe in reality all things

3934
02:30:55,510 --> 02:30:54,080
in science are paranormal until they

3935
02:30:56,870 --> 02:30:55,520
become normal

3936
02:30:59,510 --> 02:30:56,880
a cell phone would be considered

3937
02:31:01,270 --> 02:30:59,520
paranormal 100 years ago

3938
02:31:03,429 --> 02:31:01,280
that piece of the conversation about

3939
02:31:05,270 --> 02:31:03,439
paranormal is worth having

3940
02:31:06,790 --> 02:31:05,280
and about summers but unless we can test

3941
02:31:08,469 --> 02:31:06,800
and prove this information it's very

3942
02:31:10,630 --> 02:31:08,479
difficult to have that conversation in

3943
02:31:11,910 --> 02:31:10,640
the media like the new york times

3944
02:31:13,910 --> 02:31:11,920
but also

3945
02:31:15,990 --> 02:31:13,920
when i was in atip when we would talk to

3946
02:31:17,750 --> 02:31:16,000
a three or four star general or a

3947
02:31:19,110 --> 02:31:17,760
political appointee about that you know

3948
02:31:21,190 --> 02:31:19,120
we couldn't talk to him about that at

3949
02:31:23,270 --> 02:31:21,200
the end of the day it doesn't get him

3950
02:31:25,270 --> 02:31:23,280
any closer to the finish line

3951
02:31:27,510 --> 02:31:25,280
you know that a there's something in our

3952
02:31:29,429 --> 02:31:27,520
skies and we don't know what it is we

3953
02:31:31,670 --> 02:31:29,439
don't know how it works and we probably

3954
02:31:33,670 --> 02:31:31,680
better figure it out

3955
02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:33,680
we did have access to historical

3956
02:31:38,550 --> 02:31:36,160
documents in atip but like blumenthal

3957
02:31:40,150 --> 02:31:38,560
said you know those 40s and 50s cases

3958
02:31:41,190 --> 02:31:40,160
are compelling

3959
02:31:46,150 --> 02:31:41,200
um

3960
02:31:50,230 --> 02:31:48,309
but when he goes to meet with people to

3961
02:31:51,990 --> 02:31:50,240
brief them and the media talk with them

3962
02:31:53,990 --> 02:31:52,000
he does bring those documents with them

3963
02:31:56,150 --> 02:31:54,000
to show them he goes look it's not just

3964
02:31:59,030 --> 02:31:56,160
me back then it was a four-star general

3965
02:32:00,710 --> 02:31:59,040
you know uh director of fbi j edgar

3966
02:32:03,990 --> 02:32:00,720
hoover saying the thing is real and it's

3967
02:32:06,790 --> 02:32:04,000
affecting our sensitive facilities

3968
02:32:08,950 --> 02:32:06,800
some sort of reconnaissance is going on

3969
02:32:11,190 --> 02:32:08,960
that's what the document said

3970
02:32:13,030 --> 02:32:11,200
these historical docs are not just

3971
02:32:15,429 --> 02:32:13,040
important they're vital but it's only

3972
02:32:17,590 --> 02:32:15,439
part of it establishes a precedence that

3973
02:32:19,830 --> 02:32:17,600
this is continuing to occur and there is

3974
02:32:21,110 --> 02:32:19,840
some national security interest in this

3975
02:32:23,349 --> 02:32:21,120
topic

3976
02:32:24,870 --> 02:32:23,359
ralph says richard i've written about

3977
02:32:27,349 --> 02:32:24,880
many of these documents and compelling

3978
02:32:29,030 --> 02:32:27,359
reports but there's a patina of oldness

3979
02:32:31,270 --> 02:32:29,040
to this stuff that doesn't really excite

3980
02:32:33,510 --> 02:32:31,280
modern day editors and readers as the

3981
02:32:35,429 --> 02:32:33,520
new stuff does

3982
02:32:37,349 --> 02:32:35,439
and then sheehan says because the

3983
02:32:39,670 --> 02:32:37,359
government was officially lying and

3984
02:32:41,910 --> 02:32:39,680
punishing people and attacking them and

3985
02:32:43,830 --> 02:32:41,920
trying to destroy their careers

3986
02:32:46,790 --> 02:32:43,840
and blumenthal goes yeah i know that's

3987
02:32:48,950 --> 02:32:46,800
been said again and again and again and

3988
02:32:50,870 --> 02:32:48,960
lou goes

3989
02:32:52,950 --> 02:32:50,880
the middle ground is if you can tie old

3990
02:32:55,349 --> 02:32:52,960
reports to new incidents as an example

3991
02:32:57,270 --> 02:32:55,359
2004 you have to tic tac

3992
02:32:58,790 --> 02:32:57,280
compare that to stories in the 60s and

3993
02:33:01,270 --> 02:32:58,800
50s whereas the sighting of the same

3994
02:33:02,469 --> 02:33:01,280
type of craft well we'll assume they're

3995
02:33:04,710 --> 02:33:02,479
the same because they're performing

3996
02:33:06,870 --> 02:33:04,720
precisely the same way and described the

3997
02:33:08,870 --> 02:33:06,880
same way and were described as a white

3998
02:33:11,110 --> 02:33:08,880
flying butane tank or white throat

3999
02:33:12,150 --> 02:33:11,120
lozenge you can draw the correlation

4000
02:33:14,309 --> 02:33:12,160
that we're dealing with the same

4001
02:33:16,230 --> 02:33:14,319
technology going back 70 years

4002
02:33:18,950 --> 02:33:16,240
danny says

4003
02:33:20,950 --> 02:33:18,960
dr eric davis in december 2020 gave a

4004
02:33:23,270 --> 02:33:20,960
report to the senate judiciary committee

4005
02:33:25,270 --> 02:33:23,280
stating that the people he works with on

4006
02:33:27,510 --> 02:33:25,280
i and uap task force have come to

4007
02:33:29,670 --> 02:33:27,520
believe these uap were off-world

4008
02:33:31,429 --> 02:33:29,680
vehicles does that convince you lou that

4009
02:33:33,110 --> 02:33:31,439
there's a direct correlation to the

4010
02:33:35,830 --> 02:33:33,120
estimate of the situation report where

4011
02:33:38,790 --> 02:33:35,840
they too concluded it was e.t by the way

4012
02:33:41,670 --> 02:33:38,800
my note eric has not concluded his it is

4013
02:33:43,670 --> 02:33:41,680
et so and i really it's a pet peeve of

4014
02:33:45,910 --> 02:33:43,680
mine when people talk to lou and say

4015
02:33:47,590 --> 02:33:45,920
well eric davis said they're e.t and

4016
02:33:49,670 --> 02:33:47,600
then lou's like well i don't see how

4017
02:33:51,429 --> 02:33:49,680
anybody can say that eric davis has not

4018
02:33:53,190 --> 02:33:51,439
said that it's the second person has

4019
02:33:55,429 --> 02:33:53,200
said that to lou it's like he says

4020
02:33:56,950 --> 02:33:55,439
they're off-world vehicles but that

4021
02:33:58,309 --> 02:33:56,960
he has said i don't know if they're e-t

4022
02:33:59,990 --> 02:33:58,319
he goes but i think they're coming

4023
02:34:01,910 --> 02:34:00,000
through other dimensions using other

4024
02:34:05,270 --> 02:34:01,920
dimensions whether they're from here or

4025
02:34:06,870 --> 02:34:05,280
extraterrestrial he doesn't know

4026
02:34:08,790 --> 02:34:06,880
maybe the off-world vehicle is not the

4027
02:34:10,469 --> 02:34:08,800
right word but

4028
02:34:11,349 --> 02:34:10,479
you could still be off world and just

4029
02:34:14,230 --> 02:34:11,359
not be

4030
02:34:15,990 --> 02:34:14,240
from you know from here or not hanging

4031
02:34:17,510 --> 02:34:16,000
out on the planet i don't know i mean

4032
02:34:19,670 --> 02:34:17,520
there's another word probably that works

4033
02:34:21,030 --> 02:34:19,680
better but

4034
02:34:22,550 --> 02:34:21,040
so lou from who says from an

4035
02:34:25,349 --> 02:34:22,560
investigative perspective be careful

4036
02:34:26,870 --> 02:34:25,359
when anybody makes a conclusion you know

4037
02:34:28,630 --> 02:34:26,880
and then lou talks about humans being

4038
02:34:30,790 --> 02:34:28,640
binary you know we're cardio social

4039
02:34:32,550 --> 02:34:30,800
animals first eight to nine months

4040
02:34:35,110 --> 02:34:32,560
uh we hear the mom's heartbeat on and

4041
02:34:36,389 --> 02:34:35,120
off we feel good or bad up or down left

4042
02:34:37,349 --> 02:34:36,399
or right we see things in black and

4043
02:34:39,429 --> 02:34:37,359
white

4044
02:34:41,510 --> 02:34:39,439
in reality nature doesn't work that way

4045
02:34:42,950 --> 02:34:41,520
in the 40s when we say when we said

4046
02:34:45,110 --> 02:34:42,960
something about e.t you know it was

4047
02:34:46,630 --> 02:34:45,120
about from being from outer space back

4048
02:34:49,270 --> 02:34:46,640
then they didn't know a lot about our

4049
02:34:50,790 --> 02:34:49,280
planet let alone quantum physics

4050
02:34:52,550 --> 02:34:50,800
you know it could be from outer space

4051
02:34:54,550 --> 02:34:52,560
but there are other options it could be

4052
02:34:56,950 --> 02:34:54,560
from outer space interspace or from the

4053
02:34:59,110 --> 02:34:56,960
space in between which we've heard lou

4054
02:35:01,270 --> 02:34:59,120
say before or even from our oceans it's

4055
02:35:04,469 --> 02:35:01,280
dangerous to conclusively say

4056
02:35:06,389 --> 02:35:04,479
they're palladians reptilians or tall

4057
02:35:08,469 --> 02:35:06,399
whites i think that might have been the

4058
02:35:11,349 --> 02:35:08,479
first time i've heard lucy palladians or

4059
02:35:12,550 --> 02:35:11,359
reptilians or tall whites in reality we

4060
02:35:14,230 --> 02:35:12,560
don't know

4061
02:35:16,150 --> 02:35:14,240
we can agree it's not ours and agree

4062
02:35:19,510 --> 02:35:16,160
that that it's certainly not foreign

4063
02:35:22,550 --> 02:35:19,520
adversarially adversarial which means

4064
02:35:24,630 --> 02:35:22,560
it's probably not human behind that

4065
02:35:26,950 --> 02:35:24,640
beyond that it's the wild west we can

4066
02:35:28,070 --> 02:35:26,960
speculate all day long i know people

4067
02:35:30,070 --> 02:35:28,080
would say

4068
02:35:31,750 --> 02:35:30,080
well he's not really committing well

4069
02:35:33,990 --> 02:35:31,760
yeah i'm not committing and that's all

4070
02:35:35,670 --> 02:35:34,000
from lou and danny says

4071
02:35:37,670 --> 02:35:35,680
you're saying that we can say that the

4072
02:35:38,830 --> 02:35:37,680
source of these is not human

4073
02:35:41,590 --> 02:35:38,840
and then lou's like

4074
02:35:43,670 --> 02:35:41,600
he's says i don't think we can avoid

4075
02:35:45,830 --> 02:35:43,680
that part of the conversation and danny

4076
02:35:48,469 --> 02:35:45,840
goes are you listening to this ralph

4077
02:35:51,190 --> 02:35:48,479
ralph says uh he doesn't ralph doesn't

4078
02:35:52,550 --> 02:35:51,200
ralph says i have a question for adam so

4079
02:35:54,469 --> 02:35:52,560
adam worked with

4080
02:35:56,870 --> 02:35:54,479
robert john

4081
02:35:58,790 --> 02:35:56,880
at princeton he works with dean rayden

4082
02:36:00,790 --> 02:35:58,800
so it's all on that same ballpark he

4083
02:36:03,349 --> 02:36:00,800
worked with edgar mitchell

4084
02:36:05,670 --> 02:36:03,359
human capabilities you know paranormal

4085
02:36:07,349 --> 02:36:05,680
sixth sense so ralph says i have a

4086
02:36:09,030 --> 02:36:07,359
question for adam curry about princeton

4087
02:36:11,030 --> 02:36:09,040
and psychic abilities research and

4088
02:36:13,590 --> 02:36:11,040
robert young john

4089
02:36:15,670 --> 02:36:13,600
but first

4090
02:36:17,830 --> 02:36:15,680
ralph says he brings up the tech we have

4091
02:36:19,190 --> 02:36:17,840
now that did not exist in the 40s and

4092
02:36:21,030 --> 02:36:19,200
50s you know

4093
02:36:23,270 --> 02:36:21,040
to measure these things we have flare

4094
02:36:25,190 --> 02:36:23,280
cameras and such that prove these things

4095
02:36:26,710 --> 02:36:25,200
are physically here

4096
02:36:29,830 --> 02:36:26,720
you know what is nasa picked up from

4097
02:36:31,349 --> 02:36:29,840
space station or satellites

4098
02:36:33,030 --> 02:36:31,359
we don't need to go back we need to go

4099
02:36:35,030 --> 02:36:33,040
forward and then danny says to ralph

4100
02:36:37,429 --> 02:36:35,040
blumenthal

4101
02:36:38,870 --> 02:36:37,439
he goes i'm always struck by how every

4102
02:36:40,710 --> 02:36:38,880
administration is

4103
02:36:42,230 --> 02:36:40,720
is ready to only look forward and never

4104
02:36:45,030 --> 02:36:42,240
want to talk about the past you have the

4105
02:36:46,710 --> 02:36:45,040
1948 estimate of the situation

4106
02:36:48,870 --> 02:36:46,720
plus eric davis saying these are

4107
02:36:50,469 --> 02:36:48,880
off-world vehicles objects not

4108
02:36:52,550 --> 02:36:50,479
constructed on this planet and loose

4109
02:36:53,590 --> 02:36:52,560
saying they're not humans isn't that a

4110
02:36:55,830 --> 02:36:53,600
story

4111
02:36:58,389 --> 02:36:55,840
and blumenthal goes we put eric comments

4112
02:37:00,150 --> 02:36:58,399
in the new york times we put eric eric

4113
02:37:02,469 --> 02:37:00,160
davis's briefing slide into new york

4114
02:37:04,230 --> 02:37:02,479
times saying off planet vehicles

4115
02:37:05,830 --> 02:37:04,240
danny's like what did eric say when you

4116
02:37:08,790 --> 02:37:05,840
asked him about it

4117
02:37:10,630 --> 02:37:08,800
i'm like go danny go and ralph's like

4118
02:37:12,309 --> 02:37:10,640
i don't want to say what he told us and

4119
02:37:13,990 --> 02:37:12,319
he laughs he goes but i'm telling you

4120
02:37:15,910 --> 02:37:14,000
what we put in the new york times and

4121
02:37:17,670 --> 02:37:15,920
then he goes i'm asking you what he told

4122
02:37:19,990 --> 02:37:17,680
you not what you put in the new york

4123
02:37:21,349 --> 02:37:20,000
times what did he tell you

4124
02:37:23,670 --> 02:37:21,359
and my tone is probably a little

4125
02:37:25,429 --> 02:37:23,680
stronger than danny said and and ralph

4126
02:37:26,870 --> 02:37:25,439
says well he told us enough to back up

4127
02:37:28,790 --> 02:37:26,880
that story that we put in the new york

4128
02:37:30,870 --> 02:37:28,800
times let's move ahead and expand i'd

4129
02:37:32,309 --> 02:37:30,880
like to know what government has that

4130
02:37:33,510 --> 02:37:32,319
it's not sharing with us it's our

4131
02:37:35,750 --> 02:37:33,520
information it's the people's

4132
02:37:38,230 --> 02:37:35,760
information we paid for it with our tax

4133
02:37:40,309 --> 02:37:38,240
money it affects us our future our

4134
02:37:42,309 --> 02:37:40,319
contacts with possibly other

4135
02:37:44,230 --> 02:37:42,319
intelligences in the universe what's so

4136
02:37:46,150 --> 02:37:44,240
secret we have a lot we have a right to

4137
02:37:48,389 --> 02:37:46,160
that information let's push as hard as

4138
02:37:50,710 --> 02:37:48,399
we can and get it on the record that was

4139
02:37:53,750 --> 02:37:50,720
blumenthal danny says would you compare

4140
02:37:56,630 --> 02:37:53,760
the classified annex uh to the dna uh

4141
02:37:59,030 --> 02:37:56,640
dni ua uap report to the bene pentagon

4142
02:38:00,389 --> 02:37:59,040
papers uh ralph says i would in the

4143
02:38:02,389 --> 02:38:00,399
sense that i think it's public

4144
02:38:04,309 --> 02:38:02,399
information that the people paid for

4145
02:38:07,990 --> 02:38:04,319
that they have a right to know uh it's

4146
02:38:09,590 --> 02:38:08,000
their future it's our future so what

4147
02:38:10,950 --> 02:38:09,600
what is the government protecting us

4148
02:38:12,550 --> 02:38:10,960
from the story

4149
02:38:14,309 --> 02:38:12,560
why they kept it so secret is that they

4150
02:38:16,469 --> 02:38:14,319
couldn't we couldn't be trusted with the

4151
02:38:17,990 --> 02:38:16,479
information that these objects were real

4152
02:38:19,349 --> 02:38:18,000
and their real encounters and we can't

4153
02:38:20,550 --> 02:38:19,359
handle the truth

4154
02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:20,560
then he says because they kept

4155
02:38:24,550 --> 02:38:22,960
concluding that they were e.t

4156
02:38:25,830 --> 02:38:24,560
ralph says we demand to know what that

4157
02:38:27,270 --> 02:38:25,840
what it is it won't be hard to get

4158
02:38:29,030 --> 02:38:27,280
stories in the washington post and new

4159
02:38:31,670 --> 02:38:29,040
york times if we have info from a

4160
02:38:33,270 --> 02:38:31,680
reliable source

4161
02:38:34,950 --> 02:38:33,280
pushing to get verified and

4162
02:38:36,790 --> 02:38:34,960
authenticated information with the name

4163
02:38:38,389 --> 02:38:36,800
source we're pushing to get verified and

4164
02:38:39,429 --> 02:38:38,399
authenticated information with the name

4165
02:38:41,270 --> 02:38:39,439
source

4166
02:38:43,030 --> 02:38:41,280
what happens if it turns out the

4167
02:38:45,190 --> 02:38:43,040
government isn't telling you the truth

4168
02:38:46,710 --> 02:38:45,200
this is lou what happens if it turns out

4169
02:38:48,469 --> 02:38:46,720
the government isn't telling you the

4170
02:38:50,150 --> 02:38:48,479
truth because the government doesn't

4171
02:38:52,150 --> 02:38:50,160
know the truth

4172
02:38:54,150 --> 02:38:52,160
government is in this in a situation and

4173
02:38:55,830 --> 02:38:54,160
position

4174
02:38:57,590 --> 02:38:55,840
what a government is in a situation and

4175
02:38:59,910 --> 02:38:57,600
position where it knows something is out

4176
02:39:01,510 --> 02:38:59,920
there but it's rather inconclusive and

4177
02:39:04,630 --> 02:39:01,520
danny goes

4178
02:39:07,830 --> 02:39:05,830
i'm going to read what danny said one

4179
02:39:09,349 --> 02:39:07,840
more time i mean lou said one more time

4180
02:39:11,590 --> 02:39:09,359
what happens if it turns out that the

4181
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:11,600
government isn't telling you the truth

4182
02:39:15,429 --> 02:39:13,600
because the government doesn't know the

4183
02:39:17,590 --> 02:39:15,439
truth what if the government is in a

4184
02:39:19,429 --> 02:39:17,600
situation and position where it knows

4185
02:39:21,910 --> 02:39:19,439
something is out there but it's rather

4186
02:39:23,030 --> 02:39:21,920
inconclusive and danny goes

4187
02:39:25,429 --> 02:39:23,040
lou

4188
02:39:27,150 --> 02:39:25,439
there's probably credible evidence that

4189
02:39:29,710 --> 02:39:27,160
they're in possession of

4190
02:39:32,790 --> 02:39:29,720
extraterrestrial bodies and

4191
02:39:34,710 --> 02:39:32,800
extraterrestrial craft

4192
02:39:36,710 --> 02:39:34,720
and lou goes no no no listen what i'm

4193
02:39:39,190 --> 02:39:36,720
trying to say here

4194
02:39:41,110 --> 02:39:39,200
and danny goes but that's just a hypoch

4195
02:39:43,429 --> 02:39:41,120
you just use the hypothetical that

4196
02:39:45,830 --> 02:39:43,439
doesn't comport with the reality and

4197
02:39:46,710 --> 02:39:45,840
lulu goes no no no no it does then he

4198
02:39:48,230 --> 02:39:46,720
says

4199
02:39:50,150 --> 02:39:48,240
it's not that they can't figure out what

4200
02:39:52,150 --> 02:39:50,160
they are it's that they don't want us to

4201
02:39:54,710 --> 02:39:52,160
know and the lou goes hear me out for a

4202
02:39:56,870 --> 02:39:54,720
second danny goes okay

4203
02:39:58,469 --> 02:39:56,880
it does comport this is lou

4204
02:40:00,550 --> 02:39:58,479
we get things all the time that we don't

4205
02:40:01,910 --> 02:40:00,560
know how they work and so we keep it

4206
02:40:03,830 --> 02:40:01,920
secret

4207
02:40:06,070 --> 02:40:03,840
he's basically telling you i know it's a

4208
02:40:07,910 --> 02:40:06,080
hypothetical he's confirming whether or

4209
02:40:09,429 --> 02:40:07,920
not it's true or not the story that we

4210
02:40:11,270 --> 02:40:09,439
have this stuff but we have not been

4211
02:40:13,030 --> 02:40:11,280
able to make progress how to figure it

4212
02:40:14,389 --> 02:40:13,040
out so lou says there are things and i

4213
02:40:16,309 --> 02:40:14,399
won't go into detail here but there are

4214
02:40:17,830 --> 02:40:16,319
technologies that we get all the time

4215
02:40:20,630 --> 02:40:17,840
from a foreign adversary and we don't

4216
02:40:24,230 --> 02:40:20,640
let anybody know because even though

4217
02:40:25,510 --> 02:40:24,240
we haven't figured it out yet

4218
02:40:26,950 --> 02:40:25,520
we don't let anybody know about it

4219
02:40:28,790 --> 02:40:26,960
because we haven't figured it out yet he

4220
02:40:30,389 --> 02:40:28,800
goes yes we have it we do but we haven't

4221
02:40:33,670 --> 02:40:30,399
figured it out yet i'm not saying that

4222
02:40:38,550 --> 02:40:36,469
i'm not saying that the reality is that

4223
02:40:40,870 --> 02:40:38,560
that doesn't exist

4224
02:40:42,870 --> 02:40:40,880
what i'm saying what i'm saying is that

4225
02:40:44,469 --> 02:40:42,880
if you were giving given the technology

4226
02:40:46,230 --> 02:40:44,479
and it takes you a hundred years to

4227
02:40:47,750 --> 02:40:46,240
figure it out and you still haven't

4228
02:40:49,830 --> 02:40:47,760
figured it out

4229
02:40:51,750 --> 02:40:49,840
there's not a whole lot to report which

4230
02:40:54,230 --> 02:40:51,760
it's like yeah the fact that you have it

4231
02:40:56,230 --> 02:40:54,240
is enough that would be enough to start

4232
02:40:58,389 --> 02:40:56,240
the ball rolling in a big way he goes

4233
02:41:00,070 --> 02:40:58,399
yeah we've got something strange and

4234
02:41:01,670 --> 02:41:00,080
exotic but we don't know how it works

4235
02:41:03,750 --> 02:41:01,680
and danny goes

4236
02:41:06,389 --> 02:41:03,760
rightfully he says danny says but if the

4237
02:41:08,790 --> 02:41:06,399
strange and exotic thing that we have

4238
02:41:09,830 --> 02:41:08,800
comes with bodies that are clearly not

4239
02:41:11,990 --> 02:41:09,840
human

4240
02:41:13,590 --> 02:41:12,000
that does that doesn't seem to shed some

4241
02:41:15,990 --> 02:41:13,600
light on the fact that and then blue

4242
02:41:20,150 --> 02:41:16,000
jumps in he goes i think what it does is

4243
02:41:24,710 --> 02:41:22,309
case but we still don't know any more

4244
02:41:26,309 --> 02:41:24,720
than we did before

4245
02:41:28,150 --> 02:41:26,319
he's basically saying if you know

4246
02:41:30,710 --> 02:41:28,160
hypothetically if we have bodies in a

4247
02:41:32,469 --> 02:41:30,720
craft you know still doesn't tell us

4248
02:41:34,150 --> 02:41:32,479
anymore i mean let's go go down that

4249
02:41:35,830 --> 02:41:34,160
trail for a second

4250
02:41:37,590 --> 02:41:35,840
let's say there's a this is little let's

4251
02:41:39,910 --> 02:41:37,600
say there's a craft with some bodies in

4252
02:41:42,389 --> 02:41:39,920
it that aren't human and she and says

4253
02:41:44,230 --> 02:41:42,399
yep lou says okay

4254
02:41:45,910 --> 02:41:44,240
well you don't know where they're from

4255
02:41:48,150 --> 02:41:45,920
you don't know what they are what their

4256
02:41:50,309 --> 02:41:48,160
intentions are what their motivations

4257
02:41:52,790 --> 02:41:50,319
are how long do they live what's their

4258
02:41:54,710 --> 02:41:52,800
metabolic rate my point being just

4259
02:41:56,790 --> 02:41:54,720
hypothetically let's just go down that

4260
02:41:58,870 --> 02:41:56,800
road and by the way when dave scott

4261
02:41:59,990 --> 02:41:58,880
asked lou asked lou if he had seen a

4262
02:42:03,030 --> 02:42:00,000
gray

4263
02:42:06,710 --> 02:42:03,040
he said he had seen seen amazing things

4264
02:42:08,710 --> 02:42:06,720
things but in each case he needed more

4265
02:42:10,070 --> 02:42:08,720
data what kind of data well like you

4266
02:42:11,830 --> 02:42:10,080
just said if you don't know where

4267
02:42:12,790 --> 02:42:11,840
they're from you don't know what they

4268
02:42:14,870 --> 02:42:12,800
are

4269
02:42:15,750 --> 02:42:14,880
i think lou has seen those beings but

4270
02:42:17,110 --> 02:42:15,760
he's

4271
02:42:18,950 --> 02:42:17,120
very careful

4272
02:42:20,230 --> 02:42:18,960
because you don't know what they are

4273
02:42:22,070 --> 02:42:20,240
you don't know where they're from if

4274
02:42:23,830 --> 02:42:22,080
we've not made no progress on studying

4275
02:42:25,910 --> 02:42:23,840
the bodies you know don't know the

4276
02:42:27,269 --> 02:42:25,920
intentions just by looking at a being

4277
02:42:28,790 --> 02:42:27,279
and he gets to that by looking at a

4278
02:42:30,309 --> 02:42:28,800
craft you don't know where it's from

4279
02:42:32,070 --> 02:42:30,319
don't know motivations don't know how

4280
02:42:34,550 --> 02:42:32,080
long they live we don't know anything it

4281
02:42:35,670 --> 02:42:34,560
seems um

4282
02:42:38,230 --> 02:42:35,680
and then danny says but you've been

4283
02:42:40,550 --> 02:42:38,240
keeping the secret for 75 years taking

4284
02:42:42,469 --> 02:42:40,560
you know you as in government and luke

4285
02:42:44,230 --> 02:42:42,479
says but that's a different issue let's

4286
02:42:45,510 --> 02:42:44,240
not conflate the two i mean so you're

4287
02:42:47,590 --> 02:42:45,520
right the fact that we might have

4288
02:42:49,750 --> 02:42:47,600
something like that that should be told

4289
02:42:51,750 --> 02:42:49,760
to the american people but we have to be

4290
02:42:54,070 --> 02:42:51,760
careful is to go down the line of saying

4291
02:42:55,830 --> 02:42:54,080
we know we know more than we don't i

4292
02:42:59,910 --> 02:42:55,840
agree with you

4293
02:43:02,469 --> 02:42:59,920
says i totally agree i totally agree

4294
02:43:04,070 --> 02:43:02,479
you know this topic is uh so anyway i'll

4295
02:43:06,150 --> 02:43:04,080
shut up that was lou

4296
02:43:09,190 --> 02:43:06,160
and danny tells a story and that was my

4297
02:43:11,990 --> 02:43:09,200
favorite one of my favorite exchanges

4298
02:43:13,590 --> 02:43:12,000
uh in my opinion danny uh lou has seen

4299
02:43:14,710 --> 02:43:13,600
bodies in a craft

4300
02:43:19,510 --> 02:43:14,720
i don't think

4301
02:43:21,510 --> 02:43:19,520
many problems i have with them i don't

4302
02:43:23,429 --> 02:43:21,520
think he just made up the story

4303
02:43:25,590 --> 02:43:23,439
that danny came to him and said lou had

4304
02:43:27,030 --> 02:43:25,600
seen a craft in a government facility a

4305
02:43:28,469 --> 02:43:27,040
couple of months ago i don't think that

4306
02:43:31,269 --> 02:43:28,479
story was made up

4307
02:43:33,510 --> 02:43:31,279
you know i i mean i checked around and

4308
02:43:35,670 --> 02:43:33,520
other people think that's a real

4309
02:43:37,269 --> 02:43:35,680
story accurate information but lou had

4310
02:43:39,190 --> 02:43:37,279
to deny it because you know they're

4311
02:43:40,550 --> 02:43:39,200
threatening his security clearance so

4312
02:43:42,230 --> 02:43:40,560
he's got to make a living he had to do

4313
02:43:44,950 --> 02:43:42,240
what he had to do i think he's seen body

4314
02:43:47,030 --> 02:43:44,960
and craft bodies and craft uh danny says

4315
02:43:48,630 --> 02:43:47,040
oliver wendell holmes famous supreme

4316
02:43:51,190 --> 02:43:48,640
court judge talking about sheep story in

4317
02:43:53,349 --> 02:43:51,200
the 1890s so his wife takes him to the

4318
02:43:55,349 --> 02:43:53,359
countryside for a picnic she says look

4319
02:43:57,830 --> 02:43:55,359
ollie someone has sheared all the wool

4320
02:43:59,510 --> 02:43:57,840
off the sheep over here and home says

4321
02:44:01,429 --> 02:43:59,520
no my dear the most that we could say is

4322
02:44:03,670 --> 02:44:01,439
someone somehow the wool has been

4323
02:44:05,990 --> 02:44:03,680
removed from the side of the sheep that

4324
02:44:08,070 --> 02:44:06,000
we can see

4325
02:44:09,590 --> 02:44:08,080
and then he says now the fact is anybody

4326
02:44:11,590 --> 02:44:09,600
who's in their right mind knows that

4327
02:44:14,550 --> 02:44:11,600
those sheep have been shorn so that's

4328
02:44:17,510 --> 02:44:14,560
type of so that type of anal analysis

4329
02:44:19,910 --> 02:44:17,520
while it may serve certain purposes it

4330
02:44:22,309 --> 02:44:19,920
doesn't really always convey the truth

4331
02:44:24,309 --> 02:44:22,319
truth if you've got a crash crashed

4332
02:44:26,070 --> 02:44:24,319
rajwal craft where you had

4333
02:44:28,630 --> 02:44:26,080
and he talks about the telegram where it

4334
02:44:31,590 --> 02:44:28,640
says victims of the crash

4335
02:44:33,590 --> 02:44:31,600
um what david rudiak did work on which

4336
02:44:34,950 --> 02:44:33,600
is not conclusive which richard dolan

4337
02:44:37,190 --> 02:44:34,960
corrected him

4338
02:44:38,630 --> 02:44:37,200
i'm going to skip some of this and then

4339
02:44:42,150 --> 02:44:38,640
talks about

4340
02:44:45,590 --> 02:44:42,160
how the peter jennings covered that that

4341
02:44:47,110 --> 02:44:45,600
reamy document back in january of 72 i

4342
02:44:49,269 --> 02:44:47,120
don't know he's i think he's confusing

4343
02:44:50,230 --> 02:44:49,279
his dates

4344
02:44:51,670 --> 02:44:50,240
he says

4345
02:44:53,750 --> 02:44:51,680
once you've got the fact that we've got

4346
02:44:55,590 --> 02:44:53,760
a vehicle that is technologically vastly

4347
02:44:57,349 --> 02:44:55,600
beyond anything we know about with dead

4348
02:44:59,830 --> 02:44:57,359
bodies that are clearly clearly not

4349
02:45:02,150 --> 02:44:59,840
human it seems to me that story should

4350
02:45:08,309 --> 02:45:02,160
be told to the american people

4351
02:45:15,590 --> 02:45:11,349
so

4352
02:45:16,790 --> 02:45:15,600
tac may be black budget

4353
02:45:18,469 --> 02:45:16,800
it's kind of hard to say that when you

4354
02:45:22,550 --> 02:45:18,479
talk about old cases through the decades

4355
02:45:24,389 --> 02:45:22,560
1974 on the campaign trail ronald reagan

4356
02:45:26,469 --> 02:45:24,399
you know flying with the world a wall

4357
02:45:28,469 --> 02:45:26,479
street journalist

4358
02:45:30,309 --> 02:45:28,479
norman miller who wrote a book

4359
02:45:32,550 --> 02:45:30,319
um

4360
02:45:34,469 --> 02:45:32,560
and bill painter was the cessna citation

4361
02:45:36,469 --> 02:45:34,479
pilot and then the book

4362
02:45:39,030 --> 02:45:36,479
talks about how they may have seen a tic

4363
02:45:40,469 --> 02:45:39,040
tac and reagan says let's go after it

4364
02:45:43,670 --> 02:45:40,479
and white

4365
02:45:45,429 --> 02:45:43,680
uh the author said it was slightly young

4366
02:45:47,510 --> 02:45:45,439
long elongated and it just moved

4367
02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:47,520
horizontally and shot straight up and

4368
02:45:51,670 --> 02:45:50,160
the pilot said it was like a hot rod in

4369
02:45:53,030 --> 02:45:51,680
that book

4370
02:45:54,630 --> 02:45:53,040
that i don't know if i know the name

4371
02:45:55,670 --> 02:45:54,640
yeah i'm gonna look that up i had never

4372
02:45:57,269 --> 02:45:55,680
heard that

4373
02:45:59,030 --> 02:45:57,279
so danny says let's get more evidence to

4374
02:46:01,429 --> 02:45:59,040
ralph so he he can get out get it out to

4375
02:46:02,630 --> 02:46:01,439
more people if lou believes that a good

4376
02:46:04,630 --> 02:46:02,640
deal of the information that the

4377
02:46:06,630 --> 02:46:04,640
government is if the gov

4378
02:46:08,070 --> 02:46:06,640
if lou believes that a good deal of the

4379
02:46:10,550 --> 02:46:08,080
information that the united states

4380
02:46:13,110 --> 02:46:10,560
government is withholding merits being

4381
02:46:15,670 --> 02:46:13,120
told to the american people

4382
02:46:16,550 --> 02:46:15,680
and it's not legitimately classified

4383
02:46:17,830 --> 02:46:16,560
we should be able to get that

4384
02:46:19,510 --> 02:46:17,840
information

4385
02:46:23,429 --> 02:46:19,520
and danny compares the process of

4386
02:46:25,590 --> 02:46:23,439
getting the pentagon papers public

4387
02:46:28,469 --> 02:46:25,600
it compares that to the dn dna

4388
02:46:32,950 --> 02:46:28,479
classified annex again

4389
02:46:36,830 --> 02:46:35,269
we have to be careful to not you know

4390
02:46:39,030 --> 02:46:36,840
reveal any

4391
02:46:41,510 --> 02:46:39,040
illegitimate information have any

4392
02:46:45,030 --> 02:46:41,520
revelation because that could stop the

4393
02:46:46,550 --> 02:46:45,040
information from flowing to the ssci

4394
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:46,560
and then marshall summer says what's

4395
02:46:50,389 --> 02:46:49,600
going on with you in ufo information is

4396
02:46:52,309 --> 02:46:50,399
not

4397
02:46:54,469 --> 02:46:52,319
marshall summers the guy who

4398
02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:54,479
channels the allies of humanity

4399
02:46:58,790 --> 02:46:57,120
allegedly he has information

4400
02:47:00,230 --> 02:46:58,800
that he says came comes from the allies

4401
02:47:02,070 --> 02:47:00,240
of humanity who are supposed to help us

4402
02:47:04,550 --> 02:47:02,080
here to help us to overtake this

4403
02:47:06,630 --> 02:47:04,560
intervening force that is here negative

4404
02:47:08,550 --> 02:47:06,640
and there he wrote four books on it all

4405
02:47:10,389 --> 02:47:08,560
available for free so he goes what's

4406
02:47:12,710 --> 02:47:10,399
going on summers goes what's going on

4407
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:12,720
with ufo information is you're not being

4408
02:47:16,630 --> 02:47:14,800
pop not being public is not my thing not

4409
02:47:18,309 --> 02:47:16,640
my specialty

4410
02:47:20,389 --> 02:47:18,319
he goes i don't presume to know what the

4411
02:47:22,630 --> 02:47:20,399
government knows or doesn't know they

4412
02:47:25,190 --> 02:47:22,640
probably know a lot more but i don't

4413
02:47:27,030 --> 02:47:25,200
have any insight or intuition on that

4414
02:47:30,389 --> 02:47:27,040
marshall says i was encouraged to

4415
02:47:38,070 --> 02:47:34,469
by some you know so he was getting some

4416
02:47:40,230 --> 02:47:38,080
channeling type information that was not

4417
02:47:41,269 --> 02:47:40,240
from these allies of humanity all sudden

4418
02:47:42,630 --> 02:47:41,279
he got this

4419
02:47:44,230 --> 02:47:42,640
communique

4420
02:47:45,670 --> 02:47:44,240
he goes i really did not want to do it

4421
02:47:47,590 --> 02:47:45,680
he goes my usual work is in the

4422
02:47:49,429 --> 02:47:47,600
spiritual religious realm because i

4423
02:47:51,110 --> 02:47:49,439
didn't want to get into this biz you

4424
02:47:53,510 --> 02:47:51,120
know my wife this is pretty cool his

4425
02:47:56,070 --> 02:47:53,520
wife's brother was involved in it

4426
02:47:58,070 --> 02:47:56,080
earlier and summers thinks it really had

4427
02:47:59,429 --> 02:47:58,080
a damaging effect on his wife's uh his

4428
02:48:01,670 --> 02:47:59,439
brother-in-law brother-in-law's

4429
02:48:04,870 --> 02:48:01,680
well-being his brother-in-law saw things

4430
02:48:06,550 --> 02:48:04,880
that just just didn't fit his reality so

4431
02:48:08,870 --> 02:48:06,560
his brother brother-in-law was a

4432
02:48:11,429 --> 02:48:08,880
full-time assistant to george van tassel

4433
02:48:14,309 --> 02:48:11,439
at giant rock in california van tassel

4434
02:48:16,389 --> 02:48:14,319
was a 1950s contactee

4435
02:48:17,670 --> 02:48:16,399
he started hearing voices communicating

4436
02:48:19,349 --> 02:48:17,680
with him and then he had encounters he

4437
02:48:21,190 --> 02:48:19,359
claimed to have encounters with spacemen

4438
02:48:22,950 --> 02:48:21,200
where they told him about a looming

4439
02:48:24,150 --> 02:48:22,960
destruction on the planet this is the

4440
02:48:26,070 --> 02:48:24,160
50s

4441
02:48:27,349 --> 02:48:26,080
uh and then messages were about

4442
02:48:28,389 --> 02:48:27,359
universal

4443
02:48:29,590 --> 02:48:28,399
peace

4444
02:48:31,590 --> 02:48:29,600
and they told him to build the

4445
02:48:34,389 --> 02:48:31,600
integratron uh you go online and look

4446
02:48:37,030 --> 02:48:34,399
that up uh a building that would reverse

4447
02:48:38,790 --> 02:48:37,040
the aging process and

4448
02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:38,800
that building it vent hassle was

4449
02:48:42,790 --> 02:48:40,640
consumed with building it for years but

4450
02:48:45,750 --> 02:48:42,800
he never finished i think he

4451
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:45,760
hit i think he died but then so

4452
02:48:49,269 --> 02:48:47,439
summer's brother-in-law brother-in-law

4453
02:48:51,030 --> 02:48:49,279
just had to leave you know he was given

4454
02:48:52,550 --> 02:48:51,040
a choice go deeper into this in which

4455
02:48:54,309 --> 02:48:52,560
case you'll not have a normal life and

4456
02:48:56,870 --> 02:48:54,319
no access to anybody

4457
02:48:58,790 --> 02:48:56,880
or bow out there's a documentary on that

4458
02:49:00,230 --> 02:48:58,800
if you look it up george vent hassle i

4459
02:49:01,349 --> 02:49:00,240
saw the headline i need to look that up

4460
02:49:02,790 --> 02:49:01,359
on youtube

4461
02:49:07,349 --> 02:49:02,800
so

4462
02:49:12,150 --> 02:49:09,910
he was asked to receive this message by

4463
02:49:14,389 --> 02:49:12,160
a spiritual force that said we want you

4464
02:49:16,790 --> 02:49:14,399
to receive these beings

4465
02:49:18,550 --> 02:49:16,800
and he received a small message in 1983

4466
02:49:20,710 --> 02:49:18,560
on his honeymoon which he didn't really

4467
02:49:23,429 --> 02:49:20,720
appreciate he laughs

4468
02:49:25,429 --> 02:49:23,439
if the message was like hear us hear us

4469
02:49:28,230 --> 02:49:25,439
hear us we have a message and he didn't

4470
02:49:29,910 --> 02:49:28,240
come back to it until 1997 so that's 14

4471
02:49:31,910 --> 02:49:29,920
years ago until he had written the

4472
02:49:33,590 --> 02:49:31,920
greater community spirituality which is

4473
02:49:35,990 --> 02:49:33,600
one of his books and he became

4474
02:49:38,070 --> 02:49:36,000
interested in the realm of theology in

4475
02:49:40,550 --> 02:49:38,080
the universe which was a focus which is

4476
02:49:42,309 --> 02:49:40,560
a focus of his so

4477
02:49:43,990 --> 02:49:42,319
he was surprised summers was surprised

4478
02:49:46,389 --> 02:49:44,000
at how much he resisted this message he

4479
02:49:48,950 --> 02:49:46,399
always felt he was open to truth but

4480
02:49:50,710 --> 02:49:48,960
from whatever source but he was open to

4481
02:49:52,309 --> 02:49:50,720
the truth from this source but he

4482
02:49:54,790 --> 02:49:52,319
finally gave in and received the first

4483
02:49:57,190 --> 02:49:54,800
parts from the briefings first parts

4484
02:49:59,190 --> 02:49:57,200
from of the briefings from the allies

4485
02:50:01,910 --> 02:49:59,200
and he said it was from a very distant

4486
02:50:03,990 --> 02:50:01,920
voice not that far away

4487
02:50:06,230 --> 02:50:04,000
he said it was from a very distant voice

4488
02:50:08,469 --> 02:50:06,240
from far away

4489
02:50:10,389 --> 02:50:08,479
was no physical presence no physical

4490
02:50:12,150 --> 02:50:10,399
engagement no craft

4491
02:50:14,469 --> 02:50:12,160
nothing appeared in his room nothing

4492
02:50:16,469 --> 02:50:14,479
splendid or exotic just communication

4493
02:50:17,670 --> 02:50:16,479
and he recorded it as it was coming in

4494
02:50:19,910 --> 02:50:17,680
and it was written down and it's

4495
02:50:21,750 --> 02:50:19,920
available in the form he received it he

4496
02:50:23,910 --> 02:50:21,760
says we're losing critical time to deal

4497
02:50:26,309 --> 02:50:23,920
with this we're stuck on this what he

4498
02:50:28,309 --> 02:50:26,319
goes we're stuck on

4499
02:50:29,750 --> 02:50:28,319
this planet or we're stuck on you know

4500
02:50:31,910 --> 02:50:29,760
we're stuck on the idea that something

4501
02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:31,920
is flying in our skies and exhibits

4502
02:50:35,830 --> 02:50:34,000
amazing technology but there's so much

4503
02:50:37,030 --> 02:50:35,840
more something has to break and i don't

4504
02:50:38,630 --> 02:50:37,040
think it will come through the new york

4505
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:38,640
times and i don't expect the new york

4506
02:50:42,950 --> 02:50:40,720
times or ralph to be the vehicle for

4507
02:50:46,070 --> 02:50:42,960
this his concern is we really don't have

4508
02:50:48,070 --> 02:50:46,080
any way to evaluate a foreign presence

4509
02:50:51,110 --> 02:50:48,080
non-human in the world today because we

4510
02:50:53,750 --> 02:50:51,120
have no idea what's going on in life

4511
02:50:56,230 --> 02:50:53,760
beyond our world everything we ascertain

4512
02:50:57,990 --> 02:50:56,240
is from the ground level on this planet

4513
02:51:00,389 --> 02:50:58,000
and from a human perspective and as a

4514
02:51:04,710 --> 02:51:00,399
result he goes i make no claim to be

4515
02:51:07,590 --> 02:51:04,720
able to understand et intelligence uh

4516
02:51:10,070 --> 02:51:07,600
but he doesn't think they're part of his

4517
02:51:12,550 --> 02:51:10,080
spiritual cosmology so he separates

4518
02:51:15,590 --> 02:51:12,560
whatever spiritual he works from this

4519
02:51:17,190 --> 02:51:15,600
e.t non-human right i would say e.t he

4520
02:51:19,830 --> 02:51:17,200
says e.t

4521
02:51:21,510 --> 02:51:19,840
he doesn't assign this he doesn't assign

4522
02:51:23,670 --> 02:51:21,520
spiritual causes

4523
02:51:26,070 --> 02:51:23,680
to this work

4524
02:51:28,550 --> 02:51:26,080
to them or anything like that so he has

4525
02:51:30,790 --> 02:51:28,560
a separation so nothing about this

4526
02:51:33,190 --> 02:51:30,800
message from the allies of humanity from

4527
02:51:36,550 --> 02:51:33,200
alleged et's you know he doesn't he

4528
02:51:37,830 --> 02:51:36,560
doesn't make it new ages or spiritual

4529
02:51:40,469 --> 02:51:37,840
just information about what we're

4530
02:51:41,349 --> 02:51:40,479
dealing with on this planet allegedly he

4531
02:51:44,150 --> 02:51:41,359
thinks the

4532
02:51:45,750 --> 02:51:44,160
allies of humanity beings

4533
02:51:47,910 --> 02:51:45,760
briefings in a way is a form of

4534
02:51:50,230 --> 02:51:47,920
disclosure this is what you need to know

4535
02:51:51,750 --> 02:51:50,240
about who is in your world uh why

4536
02:51:54,070 --> 02:51:51,760
they're here and what they're doing and

4537
02:51:55,349 --> 02:51:54,080
what their ultimate game plan is and

4538
02:51:57,590 --> 02:51:55,359
here's what you need to know about your

4539
02:51:59,990 --> 02:51:57,600
local universe which gives rise to this

4540
02:52:02,309 --> 02:52:00,000
intervention uh what supports it and

4541
02:52:05,110 --> 02:52:02,319
what's what limits it what dick takes

4542
02:52:08,550 --> 02:52:05,120
what it they can and cannot do

4543
02:52:10,469 --> 02:52:08,560
uh what dictates what it or they can or

4544
02:52:13,190 --> 02:52:10,479
cannot do cannot do

4545
02:52:14,950 --> 02:52:13,200
if we all have to go with is if we all

4546
02:52:16,630 --> 02:52:14,960
have if all we have to go with this

4547
02:52:19,110 --> 02:52:16,640
physical evidence on the ground and

4548
02:52:20,309 --> 02:52:19,120
sightings on the sky that's only 40 of

4549
02:52:22,469 --> 02:52:20,319
the puzzle

4550
02:52:23,990 --> 02:52:22,479
so the message came in the form of a

4551
02:52:26,150 --> 02:52:24,000
group that claimed to be a group of

4552
02:52:29,030 --> 02:52:26,160
seven individuals from seven worlds who

4553
02:52:30,230 --> 02:52:29,040
have been observing the alien

4554
02:52:34,790 --> 02:52:30,240
intervention

4555
02:52:38,389 --> 02:52:36,469
not a good thing

4556
02:52:41,830 --> 02:52:38,399
uh the alien intervention

4557
02:52:45,349 --> 02:52:43,510
their activities so they're reporting

4558
02:52:47,590 --> 02:52:45,359
these seven individuals are reporting on

4559
02:52:48,710 --> 02:52:47,600
the ones who are here who are robbing us

4560
02:52:50,150 --> 02:52:48,720
blind

4561
02:52:52,630 --> 02:52:50,160
that's a word that was used to me by

4562
02:52:53,990 --> 02:52:52,640
somebody else about groups that are here

4563
02:52:56,389 --> 02:52:54,000
um

4564
02:52:58,950 --> 02:52:56,399
so the allies can report on these

4565
02:53:00,710 --> 02:52:58,960
negative ones who are robbing us blind

4566
02:53:02,389 --> 02:53:00,720
uh in their activities where they came

4567
02:53:04,469 --> 02:53:02,399
from you know what guides them and they

4568
02:53:05,269 --> 02:53:04,479
can give us that information uh there

4569
02:53:10,550 --> 02:53:05,279
are

4570
02:53:13,910 --> 02:53:10,560
the force uh their they're an

4571
02:53:17,110 --> 02:53:13,920
expeditionary force not a military force

4572
02:53:18,550 --> 02:53:17,120
uh it appears after 75 years 70 years

4573
02:53:20,710 --> 02:53:18,560
they're laying the foundation for

4574
02:53:22,710 --> 02:53:20,720
something else to come

4575
02:53:24,630 --> 02:53:22,720
so he sat with this information for a

4576
02:53:26,710 --> 02:53:24,640
couple of years a couple of years before

4577
02:53:29,590 --> 02:53:26,720
he knew what to do with it can't prove

4578
02:53:31,990 --> 02:53:29,600
the source is real or authentic

4579
02:53:34,230 --> 02:53:32,000
only way to judge this quality of the

4580
02:53:37,030 --> 02:53:34,240
message is is to compare it with what's

4581
02:53:39,510 --> 02:53:37,040
observable to what's going on going on

4582
02:53:41,830 --> 02:53:39,520
on the ground and it just rings true to

4583
02:53:43,750 --> 02:53:41,840
him but he doesn't know why and he's not

4584
02:53:45,429 --> 02:53:43,760
in a position to say what is true about

4585
02:53:46,870 --> 02:53:45,439
life in the universe

4586
02:53:48,710 --> 02:53:46,880
and what is not

4587
02:53:51,030 --> 02:53:48,720
he is tasked to get the message out to

4588
02:53:53,349 --> 02:53:51,040
the world and its citizens

4589
02:53:54,870 --> 02:53:53,359
all right danny we need to know more

4590
02:53:57,110 --> 02:53:54,880
about the source of information to

4591
02:53:58,469 --> 02:53:57,120
evaluate the credibility we'll address

4592
02:54:00,389 --> 02:53:58,479
the telepathic nature of this

4593
02:54:02,070 --> 02:54:00,399
communication separately so where do

4594
02:54:03,590 --> 02:54:02,080
they say they're from

4595
02:54:07,110 --> 02:54:03,600
and summer says

4596
02:54:09,510 --> 02:54:07,120
they say they're from our galaxy and

4597
02:54:11,590 --> 02:54:09,520
and other things they say bespeaks to

4598
02:54:14,230 --> 02:54:11,600
their intent and being

4599
02:54:16,230 --> 02:54:14,240
neutral observers they say nobody should

4600
02:54:18,710 --> 02:54:16,240
be visiting your world because

4601
02:54:21,190 --> 02:54:18,720
uh for any reason because humans are not

4602
02:54:23,590 --> 02:54:21,200
ready for contact there's no unity

4603
02:54:27,510 --> 02:54:23,600
there's no species maturity or any kind

4604
02:54:29,110 --> 02:54:27,520
of preparedness for this event to happen

4605
02:54:31,269 --> 02:54:29,120
then he says i'm trying to put myself in

4606
02:54:33,670 --> 02:54:31,279
lose shoes and ralph's shoes and me as

4607
02:54:34,389 --> 02:54:33,680
an attorney what has the source told you

4608
02:54:36,469 --> 02:54:34,399
about

4609
02:54:38,230 --> 02:54:36,479
who they are and what is their reason

4610
02:54:40,550 --> 02:54:38,240
for what their reason is for knowing

4611
02:54:42,550 --> 02:54:40,560
this information that's how you explore

4612
02:54:44,389 --> 02:54:42,560
the credibility of a source even an

4613
02:54:45,830 --> 02:54:44,399
unnamed source

4614
02:54:47,990 --> 02:54:45,840
summer says

4615
02:54:49,349 --> 02:54:48,000
the allies don't tell us their identity

4616
02:54:51,830 --> 02:54:49,359
their identity or where they're from

4617
02:54:53,269 --> 02:54:51,840
because they're acting as spies

4618
02:54:54,469 --> 02:54:53,279
they don't represent their planets

4619
02:54:56,230 --> 02:54:54,479
because they're on some greater

4620
02:54:58,469 --> 02:54:56,240
spiritual mission because their planets

4621
02:55:00,550 --> 02:54:58,479
represent free societies

4622
02:55:02,550 --> 02:55:00,560
in the universe of large technological

4623
02:55:05,910 --> 02:55:02,560
societies where freedom is either

4624
02:55:08,309 --> 02:55:05,920
unknown or repressed

4625
02:55:10,870 --> 02:55:08,319
all of them reside in local space

4626
02:55:13,110 --> 02:55:10,880
they the allies underwent a similar

4627
02:55:14,790 --> 02:55:13,120
intervention that we're undergoing now

4628
02:55:17,110 --> 02:55:14,800
and they were able to ward off that

4629
02:55:19,750 --> 02:55:17,120
intervention through various means

4630
02:55:21,269 --> 02:55:19,760
sometimes violently and that is why they

4631
02:55:22,870 --> 02:55:21,279
were asked to come and give us their

4632
02:55:24,790 --> 02:55:22,880
wisdom about this because we have no

4633
02:55:25,750 --> 02:55:24,800
idea about what's going on beyond our

4634
02:55:27,990 --> 02:55:25,760
borders

4635
02:55:30,150 --> 02:55:28,000
they've never visited us visited us and

4636
02:55:31,750 --> 02:55:30,160
don't plan on establishing relationships

4637
02:55:33,670 --> 02:55:31,760
because their books were far too

4638
02:55:35,269 --> 02:55:33,680
immature to engage in contact

4639
02:55:37,510 --> 02:55:35,279
successfully

4640
02:55:39,830 --> 02:55:37,520
no race who would ever be an ally with

4641
02:55:41,910 --> 02:55:39,840
us would ever do what is going on in our

4642
02:55:43,349 --> 02:55:41,920
world today they say space travel has

4643
02:55:46,150 --> 02:55:43,359
been around far

4644
02:55:48,469 --> 02:55:46,160
before human civilization and now ralph

4645
02:55:49,670 --> 02:55:48,479
gets involved he goes this is all very

4646
02:55:51,590 --> 02:55:49,680
interesting

4647
02:55:54,070 --> 02:55:51,600
but in order to stay on track we need to

4648
02:55:56,630 --> 02:55:54,080
establish independent authenticity of

4649
02:55:59,429 --> 02:55:56,640
information and get it out to the public

4650
02:56:01,670 --> 02:55:59,439
john mack worked with anecdotal accounts

4651
02:56:03,269 --> 02:56:01,680
but they were very compelling like yours

4652
02:56:05,030 --> 02:56:03,279
but he also knew if he wanted to get

4653
02:56:07,429 --> 02:56:05,040
information out to the public he needed

4654
02:56:09,670 --> 02:56:07,439
to verify or test the accounts otherwise

4655
02:56:11,750 --> 02:56:09,680
they remain anecdotal you know that's

4656
02:56:13,510 --> 02:56:11,760
acceptable acceptable in court you know

4657
02:56:15,910 --> 02:56:13,520
some people get convicted with anecdotal

4658
02:56:17,830 --> 02:56:15,920
information one eyewitness uh even put

4659
02:56:19,429 --> 02:56:17,840
on death row he goes but we need more

4660
02:56:21,830 --> 02:56:19,439
corroboration and verification for

4661
02:56:23,429 --> 02:56:21,840
skeptics to understand the realities the

4662
02:56:25,429 --> 02:56:23,439
complexity

4663
02:56:27,110 --> 02:56:25,439
the realities and the complexities one

4664
02:56:28,790 --> 02:56:27,120
thing we can do this is all ralph

4665
02:56:30,870 --> 02:56:28,800
blumenthal

4666
02:56:31,990 --> 02:56:30,880
what changes are going on in your brain

4667
02:56:34,150 --> 02:56:32,000
you know we can study the physics

4668
02:56:34,790 --> 02:56:34,160
mechanics as these messages are coming

4669
02:56:36,950 --> 02:56:34,800
in

4670
02:56:38,230 --> 02:56:36,960
that's amenable to scientific study and

4671
02:56:40,309 --> 02:56:38,240
maybe that could result in some

4672
02:56:41,910 --> 02:56:40,319
corroboration or understanding of what

4673
02:56:43,910 --> 02:56:41,920
process is involved

4674
02:56:45,830 --> 02:56:43,920
if not it's just anecdotal we need to

4675
02:56:48,070 --> 02:56:45,840
figure out a way like we found with uap

4676
02:56:49,910 --> 02:56:48,080
where we had radar and flear not it's

4677
02:56:51,830 --> 02:56:49,920
not anecdotal anymore

4678
02:56:53,830 --> 02:56:51,840
and adam curry who's the director of

4679
02:56:55,910 --> 02:56:53,840
entangled lab talks

4680
02:56:57,990 --> 02:56:55,920
entangled labs it worked with people at

4681
02:56:59,510 --> 02:56:58,000
princeton the pear lab

4682
02:57:01,830 --> 02:56:59,520
he says the requirements to get

4683
02:57:04,309 --> 02:57:01,840
empirical evidence to back up

4684
02:57:06,230 --> 02:57:04,319
the anecdotes is very important

4685
02:57:07,830 --> 02:57:06,240
and they were and there were issues

4686
02:57:10,309 --> 02:57:07,840
looked at they were issues looked at by

4687
02:57:11,990 --> 02:57:10,319
laboratories they worked at uh

4688
02:57:13,670 --> 02:57:12,000
adam city was fortunate enough to have

4689
02:57:15,830 --> 02:57:13,680
mentors that were edgar mitchell

4690
02:57:18,389 --> 02:57:15,840
institute of nomadic scientists uh

4691
02:57:21,030 --> 02:57:18,399
sciences and robert john who was the

4692
02:57:23,110 --> 02:57:21,040
dean of engineering at the school of

4693
02:57:25,190 --> 02:57:23,120
dean of engineering school at princeton

4694
02:57:26,630 --> 02:57:25,200
and he founded the pair lab which is

4695
02:57:29,830 --> 02:57:26,640
princeton

4696
02:57:32,309 --> 02:57:29,840
engineering anomalies research lab which

4697
02:57:34,389 --> 02:57:32,319
lab which studied consciousness

4698
02:57:35,910 --> 02:57:34,399
both researched both reached the height

4699
02:57:37,750 --> 02:57:35,920
of their technical career early on in

4700
02:57:39,190 --> 02:57:37,760
life and realized something was missing

4701
02:57:40,790 --> 02:57:39,200
they both had a transformative

4702
02:57:43,190 --> 02:57:40,800
experience that compelled them to

4703
02:57:44,790 --> 02:57:43,200
investigate ways to verify anecdotes

4704
02:57:45,590 --> 02:57:44,800
such as marshals

4705
02:57:47,269 --> 02:57:45,600
john

4706
02:57:48,950 --> 02:57:47,279
created a lab to look at the ability of

4707
02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:48,960
consciousness to do things outside of

4708
02:57:53,030 --> 02:57:51,040
the body and john was involved in early

4709
02:57:55,349 --> 02:57:53,040
remote viewing research with targen put

4710
02:57:58,550 --> 02:57:55,359
off but he's best known for his random

4711
02:58:00,469 --> 02:57:58,560
number generate generator experiments

4712
02:58:02,469 --> 02:58:00,479
random number generator is a physical

4713
02:58:04,870 --> 02:58:02,479
machine that puts out ones or zeros

4714
02:58:06,950 --> 02:58:04,880
randomly so you can ask humans to try to

4715
02:58:08,630 --> 02:58:06,960
affect a random number generator you

4716
02:58:10,870 --> 02:58:08,640
know try to put more ones than zeros

4717
02:58:13,110 --> 02:58:10,880
because it'll be fifty percent ones

4718
02:58:15,269 --> 02:58:13,120
fifty percent zeros because it's random

4719
02:58:16,710 --> 02:58:15,279
fifty percent like flipping a coin so

4720
02:58:18,230 --> 02:58:16,720
you get humans to try to affect that

4721
02:58:19,830 --> 02:58:18,240
it's one of my favorite experiments

4722
02:58:22,230 --> 02:58:19,840
because it's easy to measure and you get

4723
02:58:24,070 --> 02:58:22,240
statistically significant results which

4724
02:58:25,590 --> 02:58:24,080
suggests consciousness is more than just

4725
02:58:27,510 --> 02:58:25,600
an illusion of the brain and it's

4726
02:58:29,590 --> 02:58:27,520
somehow connected to the physical world

4727
02:58:31,670 --> 02:58:29,600
in ways we're still trying to understand

4728
02:58:34,309 --> 02:58:31,680
dean raiden continues to study telepathy

4729
02:58:36,710 --> 02:58:34,319
clairvoyance etc uh there's a cumulative

4730
02:58:38,870 --> 02:58:36,720
that database in peer over a few decades

4731
02:58:42,309 --> 02:58:38,880
that has odds of chance

4732
02:58:46,309 --> 02:58:42,319
of one in 10 to the 12th which is a

4733
02:58:49,030 --> 02:58:46,319
massive number uh recent metadata

4734
02:58:51,510 --> 02:58:49,040
a study of a thousand and three

4735
02:58:53,429 --> 02:58:51,520
peer-reviewed papers on psi phenomena

4736
02:58:57,110 --> 02:58:53,439
which is psychic phenomena

4737
02:58:59,110 --> 02:58:57,120
odds against chance were one in 104

4738
02:59:00,630 --> 02:58:59,120
to put that in perspective scientists

4739
02:59:03,190 --> 02:59:00,640
estimate the number of atoms in the

4740
02:59:06,309 --> 02:59:03,200
known universe is something like 10 to

4741
02:59:09,110 --> 02:59:07,349
so

4742
02:59:11,349 --> 02:59:09,120
those numbers i am not aesthetician i

4743
02:59:12,389 --> 02:59:11,359
know they've gotten results that

4744
02:59:14,230 --> 02:59:12,399
are more

4745
02:59:16,070 --> 02:59:14,240
you know odds against chance that

4746
02:59:17,510 --> 02:59:16,080
they're not random

4747
02:59:19,750 --> 02:59:17,520
there's something there

4748
02:59:21,830 --> 02:59:19,760
uh and adam says both labs succeeded

4749
02:59:24,790 --> 02:59:21,840
through studies using scientific means

4750
02:59:27,110 --> 02:59:24,800
that these abilities are real but

4751
02:59:29,190 --> 02:59:27,120
both were less successful in

4752
02:59:30,870 --> 02:59:29,200
explaining how it works what's the

4753
02:59:31,830 --> 02:59:30,880
mechanism they have no idea how this

4754
02:59:34,070 --> 02:59:31,840
works

4755
02:59:36,710 --> 02:59:34,080
even less successful in telling us what

4756
02:59:38,630 --> 02:59:36,720
to do with the received information

4757
02:59:40,710 --> 02:59:38,640
such as the subjective side relate

4758
02:59:42,870 --> 02:59:40,720
subjective side related to someone like

4759
02:59:45,349 --> 02:59:42,880
marshall summers these studies have been

4760
02:59:48,070 --> 02:59:45,359
replicated but replica

4761
02:59:54,070 --> 02:59:48,080
replicability can be a slippery slippery

4762
02:59:57,429 --> 02:59:55,510
because you're dealing with humans who

4763
02:59:59,910 --> 02:59:57,439
don't perform the same way every time so

4764
03:00:02,070 --> 02:59:59,920
just look think of it this is me

4765
03:00:04,230 --> 03:00:02,080
psychics are like baseball player the

4766
03:00:06,309 --> 03:00:04,240
baseball player can be amazing one night

4767
03:00:07,269 --> 03:00:06,319
and then next night go over five no hits

4768
03:00:08,630 --> 03:00:07,279
horrible

4769
03:00:10,309 --> 03:00:08,640
humans are the same way when they do

4770
03:00:12,150 --> 03:00:10,319
psychic experiments it happens it's just

4771
03:00:13,830 --> 03:00:12,160
not reliable enough but sometimes they

4772
03:00:16,230 --> 03:00:13,840
hit home runs a grand slam it's like oh

4773
03:00:18,389 --> 03:00:16,240
my god they called it an eight martini

4774
03:00:19,750 --> 03:00:18,399
result in the military in the program

4775
03:00:21,349 --> 03:00:19,760
the remote viewing program because after

4776
03:00:23,110 --> 03:00:21,359
they would see the results i'm like oh

4777
03:00:24,950 --> 03:00:23,120
my god we have to go out this is too

4778
03:00:26,469 --> 03:00:24,960
much i need eight martinis to get over

4779
03:00:28,870 --> 03:00:26,479
this um

4780
03:00:30,550 --> 03:00:28,880
but nonetheless uh adam says you have

4781
03:00:33,510 --> 03:00:30,560
you still have high p values which is

4782
03:00:35,590 --> 03:00:33,520
related to odds against uh chance

4783
03:00:37,030 --> 03:00:35,600
and i really need to study statistics

4784
03:00:38,790 --> 03:00:37,040
have a little better understanding of

4785
03:00:40,950 --> 03:00:38,800
that

4786
03:00:42,950 --> 03:00:40,960
dean raiden's lectures on this in his

4787
03:00:45,670 --> 03:00:42,960
book uh this the the conscious universe

4788
03:00:47,349 --> 03:00:45,680
is really good with statistics

4789
03:00:49,190 --> 03:00:47,359
the type of ufo information you know

4790
03:00:51,269 --> 03:00:49,200
evidence with fleer in the entire world

4791
03:00:53,670 --> 03:00:51,279
you know the entire world is watching

4792
03:00:55,750 --> 03:00:53,680
that the flair videos

4793
03:00:57,910 --> 03:00:55,760
but it's fundamentally different than

4794
03:00:59,269 --> 03:00:57,920
anecdotes and information you know that

4795
03:01:01,269 --> 03:00:59,279
people like marshall summers is

4796
03:01:03,110 --> 03:01:01,279
receiving but the research he just

4797
03:01:05,190 --> 03:01:03,120
discussed from the lab

4798
03:01:07,830 --> 03:01:05,200
that marshall that um adam just

4799
03:01:10,469 --> 03:01:07,840
discussed tells us we cannot dismiss

4800
03:01:11,590 --> 03:01:10,479
that type of received information you

4801
03:01:13,429 --> 03:01:11,600
know ex

4802
03:01:15,429 --> 03:01:13,439
subjective experiences like marshall

4803
03:01:17,750 --> 03:01:15,439
summers just showed us on the basis of

4804
03:01:19,030 --> 03:01:17,760
there being no physical mechanism to

4805
03:01:21,190 --> 03:01:19,040
explain it

4806
03:01:22,790 --> 03:01:21,200
the evidence for psi is substantial the

4807
03:01:25,349 --> 03:01:22,800
only reason this data is considered

4808
03:01:27,190 --> 03:01:25,359
paranormal is because the standard

4809
03:01:29,429 --> 03:01:27,200
standard of model the standard model of

4810
03:01:32,070 --> 03:01:29,439
physics has yet to explain it

4811
03:01:34,389 --> 03:01:32,080
so lou says

4812
03:01:36,630 --> 03:01:34,399
i think you're absolutely correct the

4813
03:01:39,429 --> 03:01:36,640
difference between paranormal and normal

4814
03:01:41,990 --> 03:01:39,439
is usually just time

4815
03:01:44,550 --> 03:01:42,000
it usually settles that you know sought

4816
03:01:46,790 --> 03:01:44,560
time as time goes by it usually settles

4817
03:01:48,710 --> 03:01:46,800
that argument real quick because i'm

4818
03:01:50,630 --> 03:01:48,720
always very cautious

4819
03:01:52,870 --> 03:01:50,640
history is full of examples where human

4820
03:01:55,190 --> 03:01:52,880
beings have had transformative or

4821
03:01:57,750 --> 03:01:55,200
extraordinary experiences

4822
03:01:59,269 --> 03:01:57,760
it comes down to two things what's the

4823
03:02:02,070 --> 03:01:59,279
difference between a vision and a

4824
03:02:03,750 --> 03:02:02,080
hallucination it's about interpretation

4825
03:02:05,990 --> 03:02:03,760
one man's vision is another man's

4826
03:02:07,670 --> 03:02:06,000
hallucination not saying either one is

4827
03:02:09,590 --> 03:02:07,680
necessarily what is happening here i'm

4828
03:02:12,309 --> 03:02:09,600
speaking in general terms you know in

4829
03:02:13,830 --> 03:02:12,319
the 60s they studied psychedelics

4830
03:02:15,670 --> 03:02:13,840
there were physical physiological

4831
03:02:17,349 --> 03:02:15,680
changes biochemical changes in the human

4832
03:02:18,950 --> 03:02:17,359
brain that opened up receptors to be

4833
03:02:21,349 --> 03:02:18,960
able to do things

4834
03:02:22,870 --> 03:02:21,359
some cases people get hospitalized and

4835
03:02:25,510 --> 03:02:22,880
then the audio got cut off you know

4836
03:02:28,070 --> 03:02:25,520
talking about bad trips i think

4837
03:02:30,070 --> 03:02:28,080
but the use of certain drugs this is lou

4838
03:02:32,150 --> 03:02:30,080
opens up the mind and allows them to be

4839
03:02:34,469 --> 03:02:32,160
more receptive

4840
03:02:37,670 --> 03:02:34,479
if you read rick strassmann's work

4841
03:02:38,870 --> 03:02:37,680
called the dmt dmt the spirit molecule

4842
03:02:42,389 --> 03:02:38,880
you'll see where they were given

4843
03:02:45,030 --> 03:02:42,399
injections of dmt was government funded

4844
03:02:46,389 --> 03:02:45,040
and they all saw similar types of beings

4845
03:02:48,790 --> 03:02:46,399
it's a really good book it makes you

4846
03:02:50,790 --> 03:02:48,800
think the brain is being tuned to some

4847
03:02:52,790 --> 03:02:50,800
other reality

4848
03:02:55,269 --> 03:02:52,800
other people disagree with that but that

4849
03:02:58,790 --> 03:02:55,279
book was really interesting

4850
03:03:01,030 --> 03:02:58,800
the uh dmt the spirit molecule uh there

4851
03:03:03,750 --> 03:03:01,040
were tests done lou's talking about this

4852
03:03:05,429 --> 03:03:03,760
uh hallucinogenics

4853
03:03:07,830 --> 03:03:05,439
talking about the mind being more

4854
03:03:10,630 --> 03:03:07,840
receptive after they are given these

4855
03:03:12,550 --> 03:03:10,640
hallucinogens lou mentions interesting

4856
03:03:13,830 --> 03:03:12,560
things the human mind can do remote

4857
03:03:16,150 --> 03:03:13,840
viewing

4858
03:03:17,750 --> 03:03:16,160
metronome synchronization experiments

4859
03:03:19,110 --> 03:03:17,760
which i don't know about i'm a drummer i

4860
03:03:21,910 --> 03:03:19,120
should know about that a metronome just

4861
03:03:26,870 --> 03:03:24,230
sets the tone for musicians

4862
03:03:28,790 --> 03:03:26,880
the speed not the tone uh he mentioned

4863
03:03:30,870 --> 03:03:28,800
lou mentions the random number generate

4864
03:03:32,870 --> 03:03:30,880
uh generator experiments

4865
03:03:34,790 --> 03:03:32,880
and he's familiar with those lou says

4866
03:03:36,710 --> 03:03:34,800
also

4867
03:03:39,510 --> 03:03:36,720
there have been some proposals i won't

4868
03:03:40,469 --> 03:03:39,520
say from who or where he where he heard

4869
03:03:44,150 --> 03:03:40,479
it from

4870
03:03:46,070 --> 03:03:44,160
regarding the havana syndrome imagine a

4871
03:03:48,790 --> 03:03:46,080
foreign adversary has developed a way to

4872
03:03:50,389 --> 03:03:48,800
take psychotronic weapons development

4873
03:03:52,630 --> 03:03:50,399
which our government was involved with

4874
03:03:55,030 --> 03:03:52,640
in the 60s and 70s

4875
03:03:57,190 --> 03:03:55,040
basically that is psychotronic is

4876
03:03:58,790 --> 03:03:57,200
integration of technology

4877
03:04:01,349 --> 03:03:58,800
uh that's where the tronic comes from

4878
03:04:03,510 --> 03:04:01,359
and human cognitive abilities to affect

4879
03:04:05,670 --> 03:04:03,520
something physical and as an example he

4880
03:04:06,790 --> 03:04:05,680
says americans or russians are playing

4881
03:04:08,309 --> 03:04:06,800
chess

4882
03:04:10,150 --> 03:04:08,319
you know a russian or american is

4883
03:04:11,990 --> 03:04:10,160
sitting in the back of the crowd and

4884
03:04:15,269 --> 03:04:12,000
with the assistance of a device can

4885
03:04:18,150 --> 03:04:15,279
amplify certain thought waves to affect

4886
03:04:20,630 --> 03:04:18,160
actions or make someone feel sick

4887
03:04:21,830 --> 03:04:20,640
scared or nervous so you're using your

4888
03:04:24,230 --> 03:04:21,840
mind but you have some sort of

4889
03:04:25,670 --> 03:04:24,240
technology that amplifies it and you can

4890
03:04:27,590 --> 03:04:25,680
affect people with that because there

4891
03:04:30,070 --> 03:04:27,600
were real experiments that were done and

4892
03:04:32,389 --> 03:04:30,080
real interesting evidence to suggest

4893
03:04:34,790 --> 03:04:32,399
that some of that may be quite real it's

4894
03:04:37,030 --> 03:04:34,800
also mentioned in slide 9 that an enemy

4895
03:04:38,950 --> 03:04:37,040
has the ability to do that so maybe

4896
03:04:40,230 --> 03:04:38,960
they're able to implant thoughts in our

4897
03:04:42,230 --> 03:04:40,240
minds because they're amplifying

4898
03:04:43,830 --> 03:04:42,240
whatever abilities they have with

4899
03:04:45,750 --> 03:04:43,840
technology which

4900
03:04:47,269 --> 03:04:45,760
i really never thought of i mean and

4901
03:04:48,550 --> 03:04:47,279
never focused on that idea but that

4902
03:04:50,070 --> 03:04:48,560
could be why

4903
03:04:51,990 --> 03:04:50,080
you know they can do some amazing things

4904
03:04:53,990 --> 03:04:52,000
it's not just they have the mental

4905
03:04:55,190 --> 03:04:54,000
abilities sixth sense it's it's you know

4906
03:05:00,950 --> 03:04:55,200
it's

4907
03:05:04,309 --> 03:05:01,750
so

4908
03:05:14,469 --> 03:05:04,319
and i lost my paper

4909
03:05:18,389 --> 03:05:16,230
lou says

4910
03:05:22,870 --> 03:05:18,399
we must make sure first thing we have to

4911
03:05:27,110 --> 03:05:24,870
is the difference between a vision and a

4912
03:05:28,710 --> 03:05:27,120
hallucination it might but it might not

4913
03:05:30,870 --> 03:05:28,720
be so cut and dry it might be more

4914
03:05:33,349 --> 03:05:30,880
subjective than that it may be there may

4915
03:05:34,870 --> 03:05:33,359
be elements of both with someone you

4916
03:05:36,389 --> 03:05:34,880
know it goes to the whole idea of

4917
03:05:37,990 --> 03:05:36,399
religion with all religions there are

4918
03:05:39,830 --> 03:05:38,000
these

4919
03:05:41,670 --> 03:05:39,840
moments of enlightenment whether it be

4920
03:05:43,429 --> 03:05:41,680
buddha or some of the hindu gods or

4921
03:05:44,830 --> 03:05:43,439
jesus or anybody else

4922
03:05:48,389 --> 03:05:44,840
you

4923
03:05:51,349 --> 03:05:48,399
know they had extraordinary claims and

4924
03:05:53,510 --> 03:05:51,359
in some cases the claims were disproven

4925
03:05:55,750 --> 03:05:53,520
and those were no longer religions and

4926
03:05:57,910 --> 03:05:55,760
considered a cult instead

4927
03:06:00,469 --> 03:05:57,920
but then you have religions and bonafide

4928
03:06:01,590 --> 03:06:00,479
claims of miracles and being able to see

4929
03:06:05,349 --> 03:06:01,600
things

4930
03:06:07,030 --> 03:06:05,359
prophets

4931
03:06:07,990 --> 03:06:07,040
luke says he's not trying to discredit

4932
03:06:11,670 --> 03:06:08,000
marshall

4933
03:06:16,469 --> 03:06:13,750
and let me just get my thing back up

4934
03:06:22,389 --> 03:06:18,950
lou

4935
03:06:24,790 --> 03:06:22,399
you said your message was from an

4936
03:06:26,230 --> 03:06:24,800
individual from a very far distance i

4937
03:06:27,910 --> 03:06:26,240
love this line of questioning because

4938
03:06:30,070 --> 03:06:27,920
marshall wasn't offended well he got a

4939
03:06:31,750 --> 03:06:30,080
little defensive but so lou says if you

4940
03:06:34,150 --> 03:06:31,760
don't see them how do you know they're

4941
03:06:35,830 --> 03:06:34,160
from a very far distance and

4942
03:06:38,469 --> 03:06:35,840
first he says marshall says my work is

4943
03:06:40,469 --> 03:06:38,479
about angelic contact usually

4944
03:06:42,550 --> 03:06:40,479
and lou says which by the way i'm not

4945
03:06:44,070 --> 03:06:42,560
arguing just for the record

4946
03:06:45,750 --> 03:06:44,080
which is kind of weird i mean what's the

4947
03:06:46,950 --> 03:06:45,760
difference between this and angelic why

4948
03:06:48,870 --> 03:06:46,960
would one be

4949
03:06:49,990 --> 03:06:48,880
i i don't understand what lou is saying

4950
03:06:52,630 --> 03:06:50,000
there but

4951
03:06:54,230 --> 03:06:52,640
marshall summers it's been a long

4952
03:06:55,670 --> 03:06:54,240
a long training for him to be able to do

4953
03:06:58,309 --> 03:06:55,680
this and it's also created health

4954
03:07:00,230 --> 03:06:58,319
problems the voice was faint

4955
03:07:01,990 --> 03:07:00,240
like a long distance call so it felt

4956
03:07:04,070 --> 03:07:02,000
distant

4957
03:07:06,150 --> 03:07:04,080
he had to pay really close attention but

4958
03:07:07,990 --> 03:07:06,160
the distance is his interpretation it's

4959
03:07:09,590 --> 03:07:08,000
marshall's interpretation he didn't feel

4960
03:07:11,510 --> 03:07:09,600
like it was nearby and it was completely

4961
03:07:13,030 --> 03:07:11,520
different than the angelic thing which

4962
03:07:15,190 --> 03:07:13,040
is a really powerful force that

4963
03:07:16,469 --> 03:07:15,200
overtakes you

4964
03:07:19,910 --> 03:07:16,479
so it's not

4965
03:07:22,790 --> 03:07:19,920
not physical but it was so poppable

4966
03:07:24,469 --> 03:07:22,800
the angelic thing so so lou says is it

4967
03:07:26,230 --> 03:07:24,479
safe to say

4968
03:07:29,510 --> 03:07:26,240
it was just an internal feeling that you

4969
03:07:30,790 --> 03:07:29,520
had and mar uh marshall says it was just

4970
03:07:32,389 --> 03:07:30,800
it was a voice

4971
03:07:34,150 --> 03:07:32,399
lou says but you can't confirm that it

4972
03:07:36,230 --> 03:07:34,160
was far or near away

4973
03:07:37,910 --> 03:07:36,240
marshall says that was my experience and

4974
03:07:40,309 --> 03:07:37,920
luke says okay it was a personal

4975
03:07:42,630 --> 03:07:40,319
experience you said it was a small

4976
03:07:43,990 --> 03:07:42,640
expeditionary force which is a group of

4977
03:07:44,950 --> 03:07:44,000
soldiers sent to fight in a foreign

4978
03:07:46,710 --> 03:07:44,960
country

4979
03:07:48,870 --> 03:07:46,720
and lucid he found that very interesting

4980
03:07:52,070 --> 03:07:48,880
because that's what he uses in his

4981
03:07:54,389 --> 03:07:52,080
military terminology so marshall says

4982
03:07:56,389 --> 03:07:54,399
looking at data for 35 years

4983
03:08:03,830 --> 03:07:56,399
i didn't go in with any conclusion or

4984
03:08:07,510 --> 03:08:05,750
marshall looking at data for 35 years i

4985
03:08:09,429 --> 03:08:07,520
didn't go in with any conclusions or try

4986
03:08:12,309 --> 03:08:09,439
to make it spiritual or confirm to my

4987
03:08:13,590 --> 03:08:12,319
religious views i just felt um

4988
03:08:15,670 --> 03:08:13,600
i better know about this because it

4989
03:08:18,150 --> 03:08:15,680
could be important so he sat with it for

4990
03:08:19,429 --> 03:08:18,160
a long time was really uncomfortable

4991
03:08:21,990 --> 03:08:19,439
you know in a way he's still

4992
03:08:23,750 --> 03:08:22,000
uncomfortable with it

4993
03:08:25,110 --> 03:08:23,760
he goes i'm a reasonable person i'm not

4994
03:08:26,950 --> 03:08:25,120
given to fantasies i'm pretty

4995
03:08:29,349 --> 03:08:26,960
conservative with how i live my life you

4996
03:08:30,630 --> 03:08:29,359
know maybe my views are far out but this

4997
03:08:32,550 --> 03:08:30,640
information was given to me with the

4998
03:08:35,190 --> 03:08:32,560
request to share to others

4999
03:08:37,590 --> 03:08:35,200
and the value it has has to be based on

5000
03:08:39,910 --> 03:08:37,600
the merit of the message and how well it

5001
03:08:42,309 --> 03:08:39,920
corroborates with what we see and know

5002
03:08:44,070 --> 03:08:42,319
about this phenomenon on the ground

5003
03:08:45,990 --> 03:08:44,080
meaning the ufo phenomenon this is all

5004
03:08:48,309 --> 03:08:46,000
marshall summers

5005
03:08:49,750 --> 03:08:48,319
there has to be some resonance there it

5006
03:08:52,070 --> 03:08:49,760
speaks to the nature of what we're

5007
03:08:54,870 --> 03:08:52,080
seeing with uap phenomenon that we could

5008
03:08:56,150 --> 03:08:54,880
gain on our own

5009
03:08:58,630 --> 03:08:56,160
it speaks to the nature of what we're

5010
03:09:01,590 --> 03:08:58,640
seeing with the uap phenomenon that we

5011
03:09:03,030 --> 03:09:01,600
couldn't gain on our own and lou says

5012
03:09:05,429 --> 03:09:03,040
how do you have the knowledge that it

5013
03:09:07,910 --> 03:09:05,439
was a small expeditionary force and not

5014
03:09:09,750 --> 03:09:07,920
something more robust than elaborate

5015
03:09:11,830 --> 03:09:09,760
summers says that's what they claim in

5016
03:09:13,670 --> 03:09:11,840
the briefings you know

5017
03:09:15,510 --> 03:09:13,680
he's he's not defensive but i think he

5018
03:09:17,030 --> 03:09:15,520
feels bad here summers goes i didn't

5019
03:09:19,590 --> 03:09:17,040
want to be the person to deliver this

5020
03:09:21,429 --> 03:09:19,600
this whole ufo thing is really messy

5021
03:09:23,750 --> 03:09:21,439
lou says i could sympathize with that

5022
03:09:25,830 --> 03:09:23,760
and danny says i bet you can

5023
03:09:28,070 --> 03:09:25,840
lou says if there's one person who can

5024
03:09:30,469 --> 03:09:28,080
attest to how messy this topic can be

5025
03:09:31,510 --> 03:09:30,479
i'm living proof of it and blumenthal

5026
03:09:33,510 --> 03:09:31,520
says

5027
03:09:36,309 --> 03:09:33,520
john mack wrestled with this some have

5028
03:09:38,630 --> 03:09:36,319
had these insights and contacts and some

5029
03:09:40,229 --> 03:09:38,640
mac and myself haven't

5030
03:09:42,070 --> 03:09:40,239
people who haven't had the experience

5031
03:09:44,550 --> 03:09:42,080
find them difficult to believe others

5032
03:09:45,670 --> 03:09:44,560
who have had them find it impossible to

5033
03:09:46,790 --> 03:09:45,680
disbelieve

5034
03:09:48,870 --> 03:09:46,800
why does that happen what's the

5035
03:09:50,710 --> 03:09:48,880
difference between people we can study

5036
03:09:52,550 --> 03:09:50,720
that scientifically

5037
03:09:54,150 --> 03:09:52,560
only only way to get the stories into

5038
03:09:56,830 --> 03:09:54,160
the paper is with some sort of

5039
03:09:58,630 --> 03:09:56,840
authenticate authentic

5040
03:10:00,309 --> 03:09:58,640
authentication

5041
03:10:02,070 --> 03:10:00,319
i'm getting tired sorry

5042
03:10:06,070 --> 03:10:02,080
either the government's saying some

5043
03:10:08,150 --> 03:10:06,080
so we're more inclined to believe it or

5044
03:10:10,550 --> 03:10:08,160
lose saying something that will get into

5045
03:10:12,389 --> 03:10:10,560
the new york times

5046
03:10:14,150 --> 03:10:12,399
but an anecdotal account won't do it

5047
03:10:15,670 --> 03:10:14,160
because people don't know what to make

5048
03:10:17,030 --> 03:10:15,680
of it well we already know this before

5049
03:10:18,950 --> 03:10:17,040
we already know this you know we've

5050
03:10:20,630 --> 03:10:18,960
we've said that we've sat we've settled

5051
03:10:21,670 --> 03:10:20,640
that so it's like it's a little

5052
03:10:22,950 --> 03:10:21,680
redundant

5053
03:10:24,790 --> 03:10:22,960
you know it's like if it's not in the

5054
03:10:26,229 --> 03:10:24,800
new york times fine we know it's not

5055
03:10:29,510 --> 03:10:26,239
going to be in new york times come on

5056
03:10:32,469 --> 03:10:30,550
um

5057
03:10:34,070 --> 03:10:32,479
adam says

5058
03:10:35,429 --> 03:10:34,080
danny asked adam about remote viewing

5059
03:10:37,110 --> 03:10:35,439
and danny said

5060
03:10:38,309 --> 03:10:37,120
adam says adam

5061
03:10:40,950 --> 03:10:38,319
curry says the

5062
03:10:43,349 --> 03:10:40,960
authenticity of their psi research is

5063
03:10:45,269 --> 03:10:43,359
established some psi superstar are

5064
03:10:46,950 --> 03:10:45,279
superstars but everybody has these

5065
03:10:48,229 --> 03:10:46,960
abilities to some degree that's what

5066
03:10:51,750 --> 03:10:48,239
they believe just like some people are

5067
03:10:54,229 --> 03:10:51,760
music virtuosos piano virtuosos

5068
03:10:55,910 --> 03:10:54,239
other people can play the piano okay but

5069
03:10:57,590 --> 03:10:55,920
they'll never be a virtue also it's the

5070
03:11:01,990 --> 03:10:57,600
same way in the psychic world joe

5071
03:11:03,910 --> 03:11:02,000
mcmonicle ingo swann pat price and helen

5072
03:11:05,830 --> 03:11:03,920
hella hamid there's so many other people

5073
03:11:07,670 --> 03:11:05,840
that are just amazing

5074
03:11:08,950 --> 03:11:07,680
dak uh

5075
03:11:11,590 --> 03:11:08,960
what's his name

5076
03:11:13,030 --> 03:11:11,600
deck smith i think i'm saying it wrong

5077
03:11:15,110 --> 03:11:13,040
this seems to be more related to the

5078
03:11:17,510 --> 03:11:15,120
nature of consciousness itself than the

5079
03:11:19,510 --> 03:11:17,520
skills with with an in with

5080
03:11:21,349 --> 03:11:19,520
than the skills with which an individual

5081
03:11:24,070 --> 03:11:21,359
that wields it some people who have high

5082
03:11:25,750 --> 03:11:24,080
gamma brain functioning

5083
03:11:28,710 --> 03:11:25,760
are people that have are more given to

5084
03:11:31,110 --> 03:11:28,720
these weird abilities but schizophrenics

5085
03:11:33,110 --> 03:11:31,120
also have high levels of gamma so maybe

5086
03:11:35,030 --> 03:11:33,120
that's not a good example

5087
03:11:36,790 --> 03:11:35,040
he tells about a plan experiment which

5088
03:11:38,229 --> 03:11:36,800
was not peer reviewed

5089
03:11:40,630 --> 03:11:38,239
uh this is adam saying there's a room

5090
03:11:45,110 --> 03:11:40,640
with no winner win no windows there's a

5091
03:11:51,510 --> 03:11:48,950
so there's a room with no windows

5092
03:11:54,950 --> 03:11:51,520
and the plant is in a corner of the room

5093
03:11:56,150 --> 03:11:54,960
and there's a lamp at the top

5094
03:12:01,110 --> 03:11:56,160
and

5095
03:12:04,950 --> 03:12:01,120
the to lamp so the lamp will go into the

5096
03:12:07,590 --> 03:12:04,960
corner 25 of the time 25 of the time 25

5097
03:12:10,389 --> 03:12:07,600
of the time 25 of the time so the plant

5098
03:12:11,670 --> 03:12:10,399
is in one of those corners

5099
03:12:13,910 --> 03:12:11,680
well

5100
03:12:15,510 --> 03:12:13,920
this study is carried out and

5101
03:12:17,349 --> 03:12:15,520
the light bulb winds up going into the

5102
03:12:18,389 --> 03:12:17,359
corner where the plant is more than 25

5103
03:12:20,710 --> 03:12:18,399
percent so

5104
03:12:22,389 --> 03:12:20,720
the argument is the plant is desperate

5105
03:12:23,750 --> 03:12:22,399
for light so somehow the plant is

5106
03:12:25,910 --> 03:12:23,760
willing through the random number

5107
03:12:27,910 --> 03:12:25,920
generator affecting it the light to go

5108
03:12:28,870 --> 03:12:27,920
to the plant

5109
03:12:34,309 --> 03:12:28,880
so

5110
03:12:38,550 --> 03:12:35,429
but

5111
03:12:41,670 --> 03:12:40,150
like he said it's not peer-reviewed and

5112
03:12:43,590 --> 03:12:41,680
somebody did try to replicate it and

5113
03:12:45,349 --> 03:12:43,600
could not

5114
03:12:47,030 --> 03:12:45,359
will that get into the new york times he

5115
03:12:48,550 --> 03:12:47,040
asks and ralph says i might get into the

5116
03:12:50,309 --> 03:12:48,560
science science times that's an

5117
03:12:51,910 --> 03:12:50,319
interesting experiment

5118
03:12:54,389 --> 03:12:51,920
it's got to be replicated though

5119
03:12:56,550 --> 03:12:54,399
interesting experiment you know plants

5120
03:12:57,990 --> 03:12:56,560
clive baxter the mysterious life of

5121
03:12:59,190 --> 03:12:58,000
plants i'm not sure if that's the exact

5122
03:13:00,389 --> 03:12:59,200
title but

5123
03:13:03,110 --> 03:13:00,399
hal put off talked about in his west

5124
03:13:05,110 --> 03:13:03,120
virginia lecture about um

5125
03:13:07,269 --> 03:13:05,120
cleve baxter

5126
03:13:09,990 --> 03:13:07,279
i think it's a documentary about it too

5127
03:13:12,389 --> 03:13:10,000
so adam says let's separate the woo

5128
03:13:15,429 --> 03:13:12,399
the atom world which he works in

5129
03:13:16,710 --> 03:13:15,439
and the weird psychic research you know

5130
03:13:18,070 --> 03:13:16,720
plenty of mainstream work on the

5131
03:13:19,910 --> 03:13:18,080
question of consciousness right now

5132
03:13:23,510 --> 03:13:19,920
that's kind of kind of pointing in the

5133
03:13:28,389 --> 03:13:26,070
a mini-revolution that's taking place

5134
03:13:31,349 --> 03:13:28,399
in philosophy classes i'm gonna have to

5135
03:13:33,030 --> 03:13:31,359
take a break in a second guys

5136
03:13:35,429 --> 03:13:33,040
there's a mini revolution taking place

5137
03:13:37,110 --> 03:13:35,439
in philosophy classes if consciousness

5138
03:13:39,510 --> 03:13:37,120
is an illusion

5139
03:13:40,469 --> 03:13:39,520
uh produced by the brain the question

5140
03:13:43,190 --> 03:13:40,479
becomes

5141
03:13:45,190 --> 03:13:43,200
an illusion to whom might be something

5142
03:13:47,030 --> 03:13:45,200
more to consciousness that goes beyond

5143
03:13:48,710 --> 03:13:47,040
the body and material world

5144
03:13:50,389 --> 03:13:48,720
we thought we'd find where consciousness

5145
03:13:51,750 --> 03:13:50,399
comes from when our technology got

5146
03:13:53,590 --> 03:13:51,760
better but nope

5147
03:13:55,990 --> 03:13:53,600
with more better tech you know we got fm

5148
03:13:57,590 --> 03:13:56,000
mris we're still no closer to finding

5149
03:13:59,510 --> 03:13:57,600
out where consciousness is in fact we're

5150
03:14:01,269 --> 03:13:59,520
further away than we ever thought

5151
03:14:03,030 --> 03:14:01,279
why does subjective phenomena have to

5152
03:14:04,150 --> 03:14:03,040
happen inside the brain at all you know

5153
03:14:06,150 --> 03:14:04,160
it could be outside that's what he's

5154
03:14:07,670 --> 03:14:06,160
saying blumenthal in other words there

5155
03:14:10,630 --> 03:14:07,680
would be a difference between an ai

5156
03:14:12,630 --> 03:14:10,640
brain and a human brain and adam goes no

5157
03:14:14,070 --> 03:14:12,640
nope in fact i think we're going to be

5158
03:14:16,389 --> 03:14:14,080
dealing with these very questions when

5159
03:14:17,990 --> 03:14:16,399
we get serious about ai if we want to

5160
03:14:20,150 --> 03:14:18,000
progress down this road

5161
03:14:22,150 --> 03:14:20,160
of the question of what is consciousness

5162
03:14:23,269 --> 03:14:22,160
and how do we create

5163
03:14:24,870 --> 03:14:23,279
create it

5164
03:14:26,469 --> 03:14:24,880
we'll need to look

5165
03:14:29,269 --> 03:14:26,479
at the fundamental nature of

5166
03:14:32,790 --> 03:14:31,510
and probably also psi research i'm

5167
03:14:35,030 --> 03:14:32,800
starting to get i'm starting to get

5168
03:14:37,269 --> 03:14:35,040
delusional because i haven't eaten

5169
03:14:38,550 --> 03:14:37,279
give me a second i gotta text my order

5170
03:14:44,389 --> 03:14:38,560
i'm gonna go to the graphic just for a

5171
03:16:26,550 --> 03:14:46,389
back in a second

5172
03:16:26,560 --> 03:16:31,190
my mic was off

5173
03:16:34,309 --> 03:16:32,630
thanks lucy

5174
03:16:35,110 --> 03:16:34,319
i'm trying to hang in there it's hot in

5175
03:16:36,790 --> 03:16:35,120
here

5176
03:16:38,309 --> 03:16:36,800
don't know why oh because i have a long

5177
03:16:39,750 --> 03:16:38,319
sleeve shirt on

5178
03:16:40,950 --> 03:16:39,760
so

5179
03:16:42,309 --> 03:16:40,960
adam says i think we're going to be

5180
03:16:45,269 --> 03:16:42,319
dealing with these uh very questions

5181
03:16:46,950 --> 03:16:45,279
when we get serious about ai

5182
03:16:48,309 --> 03:16:46,960
if we want to progress progress down the

5183
03:16:49,910 --> 03:16:48,319
road of the questions what is

5184
03:16:51,590 --> 03:16:49,920
consciousness and how do we create it

5185
03:16:53,429 --> 03:16:51,600
we'll have to look at the fundamental

5186
03:17:02,229 --> 03:16:53,439
nature of consciousness and probably

5187
03:17:05,910 --> 03:17:04,150
danny says i was shown allegedly

5188
03:17:07,590 --> 03:17:05,920
classified copies of information related

5189
03:17:09,510 --> 03:17:07,600
to remote viewing at stanford where pat

5190
03:17:11,110 --> 03:17:09,520
price and ingo with pat price and ingo

5191
03:17:13,349 --> 03:17:11,120
and says ingo was sharing information

5192
03:17:14,630 --> 03:17:13,359
with scientology and then richard dolan

5193
03:17:16,150 --> 03:17:14,640
said no that was pat price and he says

5194
03:17:18,150 --> 03:17:16,160
no it was ingo

5195
03:17:21,670 --> 03:17:18,160
it was pat price and he says pat price

5196
03:17:22,950 --> 03:17:21,680
was incredible and psychic uh

5197
03:17:26,389 --> 03:17:22,960
and

5198
03:17:28,229 --> 03:17:26,399
described the facility it was a

5199
03:17:31,590 --> 03:17:28,239
government facility that was really

5200
03:17:33,110 --> 03:17:31,600
secret and classified uh and um

5201
03:17:39,190 --> 03:17:33,120
lew says he got in trouble for that

5202
03:17:39,200 --> 03:17:42,469
so yeah

5203
03:17:45,910 --> 03:17:44,070
that's a famous story of when they first

5204
03:17:48,550 --> 03:17:45,920
were doing the remote doing and pat

5205
03:17:50,469 --> 03:17:48,560
price was naming fo pat price was doing

5206
03:17:52,389 --> 03:17:50,479
something most remote viewers don't do

5207
03:17:54,229 --> 03:17:52,399
he was naming

5208
03:17:56,550 --> 03:17:54,239
what the files were saying on that

5209
03:17:58,070 --> 03:17:56,560
remote viewers don't get words

5210
03:18:00,309 --> 03:17:58,080
it's just a left right brain thing you

5211
03:18:01,910 --> 03:18:00,319
get images and ideas but you usually

5212
03:18:03,750 --> 03:18:01,920
don't get words he would get words and

5213
03:18:05,269 --> 03:18:03,760
these were i guess special access

5214
03:18:06,790 --> 03:18:05,279
programs and the code names he was

5215
03:18:08,870 --> 03:18:06,800
getting code names so it caused a big

5216
03:18:11,510 --> 03:18:08,880
problem this is why the government will

5217
03:18:13,110 --> 03:18:11,520
never promote that remote viewing works

5218
03:18:14,469 --> 03:18:13,120
why would they i mean it doesn't work

5219
03:18:16,309 --> 03:18:14,479
all the time but when somebody's really

5220
03:18:17,910 --> 03:18:16,319
dead on they can get information why

5221
03:18:19,990 --> 03:18:17,920
would a government want that

5222
03:18:21,670 --> 03:18:20,000
so danny's like

5223
03:18:24,150 --> 03:18:21,680
i'm talking about amazing capabilities

5224
03:18:25,750 --> 03:18:24,160
and comparing the same type

5225
03:18:27,349 --> 03:18:25,760
of the origin

5226
03:18:29,269 --> 03:18:27,359
of the region that marshall has been

5227
03:18:32,870 --> 03:18:29,279
subject to you know same thing happened

5228
03:18:34,550 --> 03:18:32,880
with ufos 50 years ago if some humans

5229
03:18:35,910 --> 03:18:34,560
are capable of discerning accurate

5230
03:18:37,670 --> 03:18:35,920
information about a place from a

5231
03:18:39,110 --> 03:18:37,680
distance you know

5232
03:18:40,870 --> 03:18:39,120
okay if we want to come to grips with

5233
03:18:42,790 --> 03:18:40,880
the phenomenon then we need to get

5234
03:18:44,389 --> 03:18:42,800
access to all the resources we have and

5235
03:18:47,269 --> 03:18:44,399
not just what's acceptable for the new

5236
03:18:49,110 --> 03:18:47,279
york times or what the dod is willing to

5237
03:18:51,429 --> 03:18:49,120
acknowledge we need a team who are

5238
03:18:53,590 --> 03:18:51,439
respectful to journalistic investigative

5239
03:18:55,590 --> 03:18:53,600
standard and legal stan and legal

5240
03:18:57,830 --> 03:18:55,600
standards but also informed by people

5241
03:19:00,070 --> 03:18:57,840
like adam and others who have access to

5242
03:19:01,429 --> 03:19:00,080
people like marshall who sincerely

5243
03:19:03,830 --> 03:19:01,439
believe they are having this type of

5244
03:19:05,990 --> 03:19:03,840
communication as a social democratic

5245
03:19:07,590 --> 03:19:06,000
community we have a responsibility to

5246
03:19:09,990 --> 03:19:07,600
figure this out we need to be

5247
03:19:12,309 --> 03:19:10,000
open-minded but exercise care and

5248
03:19:14,950 --> 03:19:12,319
analyze the information and vet it and

5249
03:19:16,870 --> 03:19:14,960
marshall says

5250
03:19:18,389 --> 03:19:16,880
uh dolan says marshall i've had your

5251
03:19:19,990 --> 03:19:18,399
first two books and i stayed away from

5252
03:19:21,910 --> 03:19:20,000
them because i do not know how to make

5253
03:19:23,510 --> 03:19:21,920
sense of your source of information but

5254
03:19:25,510 --> 03:19:23,520
then i decided i like what you're saying

5255
03:19:27,349 --> 03:19:25,520
and i agree with your message

5256
03:19:29,429 --> 03:19:27,359
i do too i i don't know if i agree with

5257
03:19:30,710 --> 03:19:29,439
it i'd like it it makes sense to me i

5258
03:19:32,950 --> 03:19:30,720
don't know if i agree with it because i

5259
03:19:34,070 --> 03:19:32,960
don't know how to i mean there's no way

5260
03:19:35,910 --> 03:19:34,080
to know

5261
03:19:38,150 --> 03:19:35,920
and yeah

5262
03:19:40,550 --> 03:19:38,160
but like i said somebody i trust has

5263
03:19:44,630 --> 03:19:40,560
similar information

5264
03:19:48,550 --> 03:19:47,110
uh and he says to adam dolan he goes i

5265
03:19:50,790 --> 03:19:48,560
studied remote viewing and no question

5266
03:19:53,269 --> 03:19:50,800
in my mind that there's a reality to

5267
03:19:56,469 --> 03:19:53,279
that me too i've studied it too even if

5268
03:19:57,670 --> 03:19:56,479
the basic it's 100 or something to it

5269
03:20:00,469 --> 03:19:57,680
it's not really remote viewing it's the

5270
03:20:02,630 --> 03:20:00,479
psi remote viewing helps bring out your

5271
03:20:04,550 --> 03:20:02,640
natural ability so that's what that does

5272
03:20:06,309 --> 03:20:04,560
remote viewing is just a term of the

5273
03:20:08,630 --> 03:20:06,319
protocol of how you do the things you

5274
03:20:10,150 --> 03:20:08,640
know you take your pen and you tap it on

5275
03:20:12,550 --> 03:20:10,160
the paper and you say things that loud

5276
03:20:14,950 --> 03:20:12,560
oh i'm getting blue these things just

5277
03:20:17,349 --> 03:20:14,960
pop into your head

5278
03:20:19,190 --> 03:20:17,359
but it's using psi it's all the same

5279
03:20:20,469 --> 03:20:19,200
thing

5280
03:20:21,750 --> 03:20:20,479
and you're not supposed to know the

5281
03:20:24,550 --> 03:20:21,760
target unless when you're training

5282
03:20:25,830 --> 03:20:24,560
sometimes they'll do that stuff to you

5283
03:20:30,630 --> 03:20:25,840
to help you

5284
03:20:33,750 --> 03:20:32,389
dolan says to adam when you evaluate

5285
03:20:35,429 --> 03:20:33,760
information information how do you

5286
03:20:37,190 --> 03:20:35,439
decide what to include we all don't have

5287
03:20:39,429 --> 03:20:37,200
to work at the same level as far as what

5288
03:20:41,750 --> 03:20:39,439
constitutes valid evidence when dealing

5289
03:20:43,510 --> 03:20:41,760
with this phenomenon it's quite evident

5290
03:20:45,349 --> 03:20:43,520
that it's beyond our horizon to some

5291
03:20:47,190 --> 03:20:45,359
extent and we may never be able to truly

5292
03:20:49,190 --> 03:20:47,200
understand this at the level we would

5293
03:20:49,990 --> 03:20:49,200
want to i think he's talking about ufos

5294
03:20:52,070 --> 03:20:50,000
now

5295
03:20:53,670 --> 03:20:52,080
that probably will be the case but we

5296
03:20:56,469 --> 03:20:53,680
can make progress

5297
03:20:58,389 --> 03:20:56,479
it's like we need contests context yes

5298
03:20:59,269 --> 03:20:58,399
with anecdotal evidence i cannot prove

5299
03:21:01,110 --> 03:20:59,279
something

5300
03:21:03,269 --> 03:21:01,120
someone had seen a ufo or received a

5301
03:21:05,750 --> 03:21:03,279
message how can we possibly know that we

5302
03:21:07,349 --> 03:21:05,760
have levels of proof that are rock solid

5303
03:21:08,630 --> 03:21:07,359
and hold up to signs and then we have

5304
03:21:10,389 --> 03:21:08,640
evidence that would hold up in most

5305
03:21:12,389 --> 03:21:10,399
courts of law and then we have something

5306
03:21:15,030 --> 03:21:12,399
that looks like it's probably true to a

5307
03:21:16,870 --> 03:21:15,040
reasonable mind and danny go danny goes

5308
03:21:18,790 --> 03:21:16,880
the shore and seep example with oliver

5309
03:21:20,710 --> 03:21:18,800
holmes the shore and sheep and dolan

5310
03:21:21,990 --> 03:21:20,720
says we have intelligent people

5311
03:21:24,150 --> 03:21:22,000
we have an intelligent person with a

5312
03:21:26,389 --> 03:21:24,160
reasonable mind looking at the sum total

5313
03:21:29,030 --> 03:21:26,399
of types of information coming to them

5314
03:21:31,670 --> 03:21:29,040
we also we can reach a conclusion and we

5315
03:21:33,990 --> 03:21:31,680
can also reach a conclusion in his view

5316
03:21:36,389 --> 03:21:34,000
that's also valid and it will go it will

5317
03:21:38,950 --> 03:21:36,399
often go to that he'll awful go

5318
03:21:41,830 --> 03:21:38,960
dolan will all often go to that level

5319
03:21:45,190 --> 03:21:41,840
when writing and discussing uh it's like

5320
03:21:48,229 --> 03:21:45,200
chi chi chong if it looks like it tastes

5321
03:21:50,309 --> 03:21:48,239
like it and smells like it it probably

5322
03:21:52,229 --> 03:21:50,319
is my sisters used to play chichen chan

5323
03:21:53,910 --> 03:21:52,239
all the time

5324
03:21:55,269 --> 03:21:53,920
when i was a kid i loved it because it

5325
03:21:57,590 --> 03:21:55,279
because they cursed

5326
03:21:59,349 --> 03:21:57,600
what we do that with other types of

5327
03:22:01,349 --> 03:21:59,359
evidence when we look at it you know and

5328
03:22:03,030 --> 03:22:01,359
say you know i don't have total proof

5329
03:22:04,469 --> 03:22:03,040
but this seems like this is legit

5330
03:22:06,070 --> 03:22:04,479
because we do that with other types of

5331
03:22:08,309 --> 03:22:06,080
evidence and things we encounter in our

5332
03:22:10,710 --> 03:22:08,319
world you know it's easy to ignore this

5333
03:22:12,630 --> 03:22:10,720
is dolan ufo information but when you

5334
03:22:14,150 --> 03:22:12,640
engage in it you find you know i can't

5335
03:22:16,469 --> 03:22:14,160
prove all these people are telling the

5336
03:22:18,070 --> 03:22:16,479
truth but there's all saying almost the

5337
03:22:20,150 --> 03:22:18,080
same exact thing

5338
03:22:21,750 --> 03:22:20,160
so i can work with that uh and that's

5339
03:22:23,190 --> 03:22:21,760
his attitude that's dolan's attitude

5340
03:22:25,269 --> 03:22:23,200
doesn't mean that everything is a sure

5341
03:22:27,269 --> 03:22:25,279
shot but i think that's valid and for

5342
03:22:29,349 --> 03:22:27,279
that reason i was very glad to hear

5343
03:22:31,030 --> 03:22:29,359
marshall and adam speak it doesn't prove

5344
03:22:32,550 --> 03:22:31,040
that marshall's information is valid but

5345
03:22:35,030 --> 03:22:32,560
at least we can see there's a

5346
03:22:36,790 --> 03:22:35,040
possibility that these things can be

5347
03:22:40,229 --> 03:22:36,800
real and then he talks about how he met

5348
03:22:41,830 --> 03:22:40,239
ingo and he talked to put off on targ

5349
03:22:43,990 --> 03:22:41,840
he doesn't know how remote viewing or

5350
03:22:44,790 --> 03:22:44,000
telepathy works or the physic but we

5351
03:22:46,790 --> 03:22:44,800
don't

5352
03:22:48,469 --> 03:22:46,800
but that's the fault of our worldview

5353
03:22:50,469 --> 03:22:48,479
and our science it doesn't mean it's not

5354
03:22:52,150 --> 03:22:50,479
real and then ralph said

5355
03:22:54,389 --> 03:22:52,160
uh my wife and i had a dinner with

5356
03:22:56,229 --> 03:22:54,399
russell targ a few years ago

5357
03:22:58,389 --> 03:22:56,239
and i said to russell russell tell me

5358
03:23:00,469 --> 03:22:58,399
what's in my wife's bag

5359
03:23:02,550 --> 03:23:00,479
and i put him on the spot and he drew a

5360
03:23:04,469 --> 03:23:02,560
flip-flop and it was accurate it freaked

5361
03:23:06,630 --> 03:23:04,479
me my wife and i out and at that point i

5362
03:23:08,229 --> 03:23:06,640
became a believer

5363
03:23:10,070 --> 03:23:08,239
danny says he wants to recruit all of

5364
03:23:12,150 --> 03:23:10,080
them for his cause studying all of this

5365
03:23:13,830 --> 03:23:12,160
he wants a jason-like group uh jason's

5366
03:23:15,670 --> 03:23:13,840
were a secretive group of cold war

5367
03:23:17,510 --> 03:23:15,680
science advisors for the dod which i did

5368
03:23:20,150 --> 03:23:17,520
not know about last live stream who

5369
03:23:21,429 --> 03:23:20,160
worked for the government in science

5370
03:23:23,429 --> 03:23:21,439
danny wants to try to understand the

5371
03:23:26,229 --> 03:23:23,439
phenomenon in the beans take in all the

5372
03:23:28,070 --> 03:23:26,239
information including marshall have uh

5373
03:23:29,590 --> 03:23:28,080
eric weinstein and his science friends

5374
03:23:32,229 --> 03:23:29,600
who did not appear to have been tasked

5375
03:23:34,309 --> 03:23:32,239
on this you know but they need money uh

5376
03:23:36,150 --> 03:23:34,319
mark sims helps a little on money that's

5377
03:23:37,670 --> 03:23:36,160
me saying that but this is the most

5378
03:23:39,830 --> 03:23:37,680
single important event in our lives

5379
03:23:41,510 --> 03:23:39,840
they've been warning about us

5380
03:23:42,790 --> 03:23:41,520
uh they've been warning us about the

5381
03:23:45,269 --> 03:23:42,800
planet and it's been a consistent

5382
03:23:47,269 --> 03:23:45,279
message for decades and ralph says the

5383
03:23:48,870 --> 03:23:47,279
evidence exists in the deep

5384
03:23:50,950 --> 03:23:48,880
the and i put this out earlier on

5385
03:23:53,590 --> 03:23:50,960
twitter the evidence exists in the most

5386
03:23:56,070 --> 03:23:53,600
deeply hidden parts of not only our

5387
03:23:58,389 --> 03:23:56,080
government but outside our government

5388
03:24:00,790 --> 03:23:58,399
in the private contractors they have

5389
03:24:03,190 --> 03:24:00,800
this information we've heard this we

5390
03:24:05,590 --> 03:24:03,200
can't get at it it's not amenable to

5391
03:24:07,910 --> 03:24:05,600
through freedom of information requests

5392
03:24:09,750 --> 03:24:07,920
even the government even lose group as

5393
03:24:11,750 --> 03:24:09,760
i'm sure he might or might not even

5394
03:24:14,630 --> 03:24:11,760
acknowledge was unable to get their

5395
03:24:16,870 --> 03:24:14,640
hands on it there are secret secret

5396
03:24:19,269 --> 03:24:16,880
super secret corners of our country our

5397
03:24:21,030 --> 03:24:19,279
stat establishment particularly the

5398
03:24:23,429 --> 03:24:21,040
private component private industry

5399
03:24:25,910 --> 03:24:23,439
lockheed etc where this stuff is held

5400
03:24:27,910 --> 03:24:25,920
we're convinced but we can't get at it

5401
03:24:30,550 --> 03:24:27,920
and that's the object that's the place

5402
03:24:34,710 --> 03:24:30,560
to go looking and dolan says exactly

5403
03:24:40,550 --> 03:24:36,870
let me get rid of this

5404
03:24:45,269 --> 03:24:43,510
i'm getting a sore throat

5405
03:24:47,110 --> 03:24:45,279
sheen says i believe that we can get it

5406
03:24:48,870 --> 03:24:47,120
i can tell you i believe that we can get

5407
03:24:50,630 --> 03:24:48,880
it but we have to make a concentrated

5408
03:24:52,070 --> 03:24:50,640
effort on getting it we tried to do it

5409
03:24:53,590 --> 03:24:52,080
within the rules and regulations that

5410
03:24:55,110 --> 03:24:53,600
were drafted by those who are keeping

5411
03:24:57,590 --> 03:24:55,120
the secret but there's a state of

5412
03:24:59,269 --> 03:24:57,600
emergency in this country in this world

5413
03:25:01,349 --> 03:24:59,279
not necessarily from any threat that

5414
03:25:03,510 --> 03:25:01,359
they pose but because of global climate

5415
03:25:05,190 --> 03:25:03,520
climate change

5416
03:25:06,469 --> 03:25:05,200
there's tech and this is danny sheen

5417
03:25:08,469 --> 03:25:06,479
there's tech that maybe we can get

5418
03:25:10,469 --> 03:25:08,479
access to but not by compromising

5419
03:25:12,229 --> 03:25:10,479
ourselves by asking the et's to give it

5420
03:25:15,110 --> 03:25:12,239
to us we might already have this

5421
03:25:16,870 --> 03:25:15,120
information and already uh that we can

5422
03:25:18,790 --> 03:25:16,880
that we could utilize we can't sit

5423
03:25:20,710 --> 03:25:18,800
around as our earth burns and the earth

5424
03:25:22,550 --> 03:25:20,720
is in chaos we've got to step forward

5425
03:25:24,309 --> 03:25:22,560
and men and women who care about our

5426
03:25:26,550 --> 03:25:24,319
planet who have strong suspicions that

5427
03:25:28,790 --> 03:25:26,560
information exists

5428
03:25:30,710 --> 03:25:28,800
and if info exists we can get it people

5429
03:25:32,790 --> 03:25:30,720
are always amazed that we got info on

5430
03:25:34,309 --> 03:25:32,800
iran contra

5431
03:25:36,550 --> 03:25:34,319
some of the cocaine specifics and

5432
03:25:38,630 --> 03:25:36,560
details and pentagon papers we did it

5433
03:25:39,750 --> 03:25:38,640
without congress admitting it was going

5434
03:25:42,309 --> 03:25:39,760
on

5435
03:25:43,670 --> 03:25:42,319
people will come out of the woodwork and

5436
03:25:45,190 --> 03:25:43,680
come to us he's talking about

5437
03:25:47,750 --> 03:25:45,200
whistleblowers i think just like the

5438
03:25:51,110 --> 03:25:47,760
pentagon payers and daniel

5439
03:25:52,550 --> 03:25:51,120
forget his name elfson uh he says build

5440
03:25:53,990 --> 03:25:52,560
it and they will come

5441
03:25:55,269 --> 03:25:54,000
i believe we can do it it's the reason

5442
03:25:56,790 --> 03:25:55,279
we're doing this it's the reason for

5443
03:25:59,349 --> 03:25:56,800
putting marshall on the spot it's

5444
03:26:01,190 --> 03:25:59,359
necessary and marshall says

5445
03:26:02,229 --> 03:26:01,200
i really appreciate you guys respecting

5446
03:26:04,630 --> 03:26:02,239
me

5447
03:26:06,790 --> 03:26:04,640
i faced a lot of denial critics and i've

5448
03:26:08,309 --> 03:26:06,800
been called a lot of things someone in

5449
03:26:10,389 --> 03:26:08,319
the chat in your chat said i was a

5450
03:26:11,990 --> 03:26:10,399
stooge of the dod

5451
03:26:14,630 --> 03:26:12,000
and danny says wait a second that's

5452
03:26:15,670 --> 03:26:14,640
lou's title luke says yeah i already got

5453
03:26:18,229 --> 03:26:15,680
that one

5454
03:26:19,990 --> 03:26:18,239
marshall says he's received 9 000 pages

5455
03:26:21,349 --> 03:26:20,000
of information and i'm most making most

5456
03:26:24,309 --> 03:26:21,359
of it available

5457
03:26:26,150 --> 03:26:24,319
all over the world i have a serious life

5458
03:26:28,150 --> 03:26:26,160
and a tangible life we're not looking at

5459
03:26:30,389 --> 03:26:28,160
a human universe where human reason is

5460
03:26:32,309 --> 03:26:30,399
practiced think within the box to

5461
03:26:34,389 --> 03:26:32,319
communicate to people but begin to think

5462
03:26:36,550 --> 03:26:34,399
outside the box it's no accident that

5463
03:26:38,389 --> 03:26:36,560
you've all ended up working this

5464
03:26:40,150 --> 03:26:38,399
on this we can only ascertain so much

5465
03:26:43,269 --> 03:26:40,160
about foreign intelligence which is the

5466
03:26:45,830 --> 03:26:43,279
invading alien force

5467
03:26:47,830 --> 03:26:45,840
what we can ascertain is intent these

5468
03:26:50,309 --> 03:26:47,840
briefings are like e.t whistleblowers

5469
03:26:53,349 --> 03:26:50,319
that revealed that picture that we could

5470
03:26:55,510 --> 03:26:53,359
not find on our own the allies gave us

5471
03:26:57,990 --> 03:26:55,520
info we we couldn't get from being on

5472
03:27:00,229 --> 03:26:58,000
this earth they gave us pieces of the

5473
03:27:02,309 --> 03:27:00,239
puzzle we can't explain why we feel good

5474
03:27:04,950 --> 03:27:02,319
or bad about a situation we're missing

5475
03:27:06,550 --> 03:27:04,960
so much information about the phenomenon

5476
03:27:09,190 --> 03:27:06,560
i can't prove any of this or quantify

5477
03:27:11,269 --> 03:27:09,200
this you know use your innate skills to

5478
03:27:12,950 --> 03:27:11,279
judge it this is the mind beyond the

5479
03:27:16,469 --> 03:27:12,960
brain that watches the brain i always

5480
03:27:18,469 --> 03:27:16,479
wonder if you watch your own thoughts

5481
03:27:20,630 --> 03:27:18,479
who is you watching your own thoughts

5482
03:27:22,309 --> 03:27:20,640
and who is you watching you watching

5483
03:27:24,870 --> 03:27:22,319
your own thoughts that he laughs he says

5484
03:27:27,110 --> 03:27:24,880
it's like buddhist kind of thinking

5485
03:27:28,950 --> 03:27:27,120
practice i think this can give a

5486
03:27:29,990 --> 03:27:28,960
perspective that i think we have to

5487
03:27:31,670 --> 03:27:30,000
explore

5488
03:27:34,630 --> 03:27:31,680
and danny says

5489
03:27:35,910 --> 03:27:34,640
on the same day we filed the

5490
03:27:37,190 --> 03:27:35,920
inspector general complaint the

5491
03:27:38,950 --> 03:27:37,200
inspector general then said in the

5492
03:27:40,229 --> 03:27:38,960
afternoon that they would engage in a

5493
03:27:42,389 --> 03:27:40,239
wide-ranging

5494
03:27:44,229 --> 03:27:42,399
evaluation of all of the actions that

5495
03:27:46,070 --> 03:27:44,239
any element of the dod had under

5496
03:27:47,910 --> 03:27:46,080
undertaken with respect to the ufo

5497
03:27:49,830 --> 03:27:47,920
phenomenon

5498
03:27:51,910 --> 03:27:49,840
and i think danny says i think and i

5499
03:27:54,150 --> 03:27:51,920
think lou agrees that the inspector

5500
03:27:55,910 --> 03:27:54,160
general people are honest good faith men

5501
03:27:57,269 --> 03:27:55,920
that we have met and lou says i agree

5502
03:27:58,389 --> 03:27:57,279
wholeheartedly

5503
03:27:59,750 --> 03:27:58,399
danny says

5504
03:28:01,670 --> 03:27:59,760
and if they have been kept in the dark

5505
03:28:04,150 --> 03:28:01,680
about this phenomenon they have the

5506
03:28:05,830 --> 03:28:04,160
authority to call people before them and

5507
03:28:08,229 --> 03:28:05,840
ask the right questions if they realize

5508
03:28:10,309 --> 03:28:08,239
they're being stonewalled like lou was

5509
03:28:12,229 --> 03:28:10,319
then we can assist them in conducting a

5510
03:28:13,190 --> 03:28:12,239
good faith investigation that would be

5511
03:28:15,429 --> 03:28:13,200
great

5512
03:28:18,550 --> 03:28:15,439
bring in susan goff

5513
03:28:19,910 --> 03:28:18,560
raise your right hand sue

5514
03:28:21,910 --> 03:28:19,920
doesn't mean they'll give all of the

5515
03:28:23,990 --> 03:28:21,920
information to us but uh

5516
03:28:25,349 --> 03:28:24,000
they may share it with lou the ig may

5517
03:28:27,590 --> 03:28:25,359
share the information with lou because

5518
03:28:28,550 --> 03:28:27,600
lou has clearances that danny does not

5519
03:28:30,229 --> 03:28:28,560
you know

5520
03:28:31,590 --> 03:28:30,239
lou can sit with them and share

5521
03:28:33,190 --> 03:28:31,600
information with them i feel that the

5522
03:28:35,429 --> 03:28:33,200
inspector general is inviting that

5523
03:28:37,510 --> 03:28:35,439
information and opens trying to get lou

5524
03:28:39,590 --> 03:28:37,520
to share with them what lou was able to

5525
03:28:41,190 --> 03:28:39,600
determine with his investigations

5526
03:28:42,710 --> 03:28:41,200
because they have been left in the dark

5527
03:28:44,710 --> 03:28:42,720
and lou says yes

5528
03:28:46,630 --> 03:28:44,720
there's an honest attempt to reconcile

5529
03:28:48,469 --> 03:28:46,640
with they and i know it's randolph stone

5530
03:28:50,229 --> 03:28:48,479
is the head of it we're told in the past

5531
03:28:53,110 --> 03:28:50,239
versus what they're learning

5532
03:28:55,670 --> 03:28:53,120
this is probably my favorite part here

5533
03:28:56,950 --> 03:28:55,680
the ig seems professional and they want

5534
03:28:58,710 --> 03:28:56,960
to do the right thing for the american

5535
03:29:00,550 --> 03:28:58,720
people and their boss

5536
03:29:02,070 --> 03:29:00,560
luella zondo speaking here he says i

5537
03:29:03,990 --> 03:29:02,080
applaud them

5538
03:29:06,070 --> 03:29:04,000
lou says i agree with adam that

5539
03:29:08,150 --> 03:29:06,080
consciousness is not just the result of

5540
03:29:09,670 --> 03:29:08,160
electrical synapses in the brain it's

5541
03:29:12,309 --> 03:29:09,680
safe to assume

5542
03:29:14,469 --> 03:29:12,319
there's something more to it in that

5543
03:29:16,150 --> 03:29:14,479
spirit is more difficult to understand i

5544
03:29:17,990 --> 03:29:16,160
think he's referring to spirit because i

5545
03:29:20,070 --> 03:29:18,000
cut out some of it you know he said mind

5546
03:29:21,590 --> 03:29:20,080
body and spirit the spirit part is more

5547
03:29:24,469 --> 03:29:21,600
difficult to understand

5548
03:29:26,469 --> 03:29:24,479
but not less any not less but not any

5549
03:29:28,550 --> 03:29:26,479
less important than mind and body all

5550
03:29:30,630 --> 03:29:28,560
data must remain on the table until it's

5551
03:29:32,309 --> 03:29:30,640
no longer on the table i know from my

5552
03:29:34,229 --> 03:29:32,319
own perspective

5553
03:29:36,469 --> 03:29:34,239
and i know this may be a surprise to

5554
03:29:38,469 --> 03:29:36,479
some people because i don't even talk

5555
03:29:40,389 --> 03:29:38,479
about it but i happen to know a thing or

5556
03:29:42,070 --> 03:29:40,399
two about the remote viewing program and

5557
03:29:43,830 --> 03:29:42,080
i'm not going to go into much detail

5558
03:29:45,910 --> 03:29:43,840
about that i mean he's given hints in

5559
03:29:47,910 --> 03:29:45,920
the past but i'm pretty sure

5560
03:29:50,710 --> 03:29:47,920
it was probably a pretty good remote

5561
03:29:53,030 --> 03:29:50,720
viewer um

5562
03:29:54,389 --> 03:29:53,040
they recruited counter intel people into

5563
03:29:56,309 --> 03:29:54,399
the remote viewing program i think joe

5564
03:29:58,389 --> 03:29:56,319
mcmonicle said that probably because of

5565
03:30:00,630 --> 03:29:58,399
the way their mind thinks analyzing

5566
03:30:02,150 --> 03:30:00,640
information i don't know um i would i

5567
03:30:03,349 --> 03:30:02,160
will ask him if i ever get to interview

5568
03:30:05,750 --> 03:30:03,359
lou uh

5569
03:30:07,590 --> 03:30:05,760
most of the general most of the general

5570
03:30:09,590 --> 03:30:07,600
this is lou most of the general public

5571
03:30:11,830 --> 03:30:09,600
think all of this is sci-fi and now

5572
03:30:13,030 --> 03:30:11,840
you're asking them to do a complete 180

5573
03:30:15,110 --> 03:30:13,040
degree turn

5574
03:30:17,030 --> 03:30:15,120
we got to crawl before we can run and we

5575
03:30:18,950 --> 03:30:17,040
haven't even been able to crawl yet on

5576
03:30:20,469 --> 03:30:18,960
this stuff this falls into remote

5577
03:30:21,830 --> 03:30:20,479
viewing channeling

5578
03:30:24,469 --> 03:30:21,840
um

5579
03:30:27,590 --> 03:30:25,910
citizen witness i don't know if he's

5580
03:30:28,790 --> 03:30:27,600
watching but he said this yesterday and

5581
03:30:30,950 --> 03:30:28,800
i said the information we're remote

5582
03:30:32,710 --> 03:30:30,960
viewing comes out in dribbling and

5583
03:30:35,990 --> 03:30:32,720
channeling comes out in a stream from

5584
03:30:38,229 --> 03:30:36,000
what i understand but lou says

5585
03:30:40,150 --> 03:30:38,239
it seems to me the skill sets seem to be

5586
03:30:41,030 --> 03:30:40,160
the same between channeling and remote

5587
03:30:42,790 --> 03:30:41,040
viewing

5588
03:30:44,070 --> 03:30:42,800
you know or a profit

5589
03:30:45,750 --> 03:30:44,080
you know they're great challenges we

5590
03:30:48,550 --> 03:30:45,760
have challenges we have in understanding

5591
03:30:52,469 --> 03:30:50,950
maybe i love this is probably because

5592
03:30:54,229 --> 03:30:52,479
the reason i

5593
03:30:56,550 --> 03:30:54,239
the end game for me in

5594
03:30:58,469 --> 03:30:56,560
ufos is to get to the consciousness when

5595
03:31:00,550 --> 03:30:58,479
people accept that ufos are real and

5596
03:31:02,630 --> 03:31:00,560
they've been lied to then we could say

5597
03:31:04,309 --> 03:31:02,640
you also have been lied to about human

5598
03:31:06,150 --> 03:31:04,319
this is me by the way

5599
03:31:08,710 --> 03:31:06,160
you've also been lied to about human

5600
03:31:10,710 --> 03:31:08,720
capabilities you are capable of so much

5601
03:31:13,510 --> 03:31:10,720
more that you don't know about and lose

5602
03:31:15,750 --> 03:31:13,520
says perhaps consciousness is something

5603
03:31:17,990 --> 03:31:15,760
a little bit because i think i'm sorry

5604
03:31:21,190 --> 03:31:18,000
because i think the beings have

5605
03:31:22,070 --> 03:31:21,200
a better grasp of telepathy in those

5606
03:31:24,830 --> 03:31:22,080
those

5607
03:31:26,790 --> 03:31:24,840
abilities assuming they're not all using

5608
03:31:29,830 --> 03:31:26,800
technology you know

5609
03:31:31,830 --> 03:31:29,840
their abilities i'm assuming some of

5610
03:31:33,750 --> 03:31:31,840
them have a natural ability that's just

5611
03:31:35,349 --> 03:31:33,760
beyond us especially if they're a

5612
03:31:36,469 --> 03:31:35,359
million years ahead of us or 10 000

5613
03:31:38,870 --> 03:31:36,479
years

5614
03:31:41,030 --> 03:31:38,880
may be part of evolution so lou says

5615
03:31:43,269 --> 03:31:41,040
sorry perhaps consciousness is something

5616
03:31:45,990 --> 03:31:43,279
a little bit more indelible something a

5617
03:31:49,110 --> 03:31:46,000
little bit more universal beyond just

5618
03:31:51,590 --> 03:31:49,120
our species beyond just our species

5619
03:31:53,510 --> 03:31:51,600
potentially and as a result a result of

5620
03:31:54,710 --> 03:31:53,520
that it tends to be a little bit harder

5621
03:31:56,550 --> 03:31:54,720
to define

5622
03:31:59,590 --> 03:31:56,560
a little harder to understand because

5623
03:32:01,030 --> 03:31:59,600
it's not a completely human thing to

5624
03:32:02,389 --> 03:32:01,040
begin with

5625
03:32:03,429 --> 03:32:02,399
it's basically saying whatever we're

5626
03:32:04,950 --> 03:32:03,439
dealing with they're dealing with their

5627
03:32:07,670 --> 03:32:04,960
own consciousness so that's pretty cool

5628
03:32:10,229 --> 03:32:07,680
i love that and he says to marshall lou

5629
03:32:11,750 --> 03:32:10,239
says to marshall summers

5630
03:32:13,990 --> 03:32:11,760
he goes marshall understand i'm not

5631
03:32:15,910 --> 03:32:14,000
sharp shooting you i'm not disagreeing

5632
03:32:17,990 --> 03:32:15,920
with you what i'm doing is posing to you

5633
03:32:20,070 --> 03:32:18,000
the questions as an investigator the

5634
03:32:22,870 --> 03:32:20,080
reason i don't super superimpose my own

5635
03:32:24,790 --> 03:32:22,880
thoughts and beliefs

5636
03:32:26,070 --> 03:32:24,800
i'm not sure it's fair nor relevant

5637
03:32:28,469 --> 03:32:26,080
what's important

5638
03:32:30,389 --> 03:32:28,479
his own he's not he's not sure his own

5639
03:32:32,469 --> 03:32:30,399
thoughts or beliefs are fair or relevant

5640
03:32:34,309 --> 03:32:32,479
what's important are the facts you know

5641
03:32:35,670 --> 03:32:34,319
not because i believe or don't believe

5642
03:32:37,590 --> 03:32:35,680
i'm just trying to look at it from an

5643
03:32:39,990 --> 03:32:37,600
outside perspective and ask questions

5644
03:32:41,429 --> 03:32:40,000
and try to evaluate the authenticity of

5645
03:32:44,150 --> 03:32:41,439
the information you're providing it's

5646
03:32:46,229 --> 03:32:44,160
not about you it's me marshall it's not

5647
03:32:48,229 --> 03:32:46,239
you it's me all right

5648
03:32:49,590 --> 03:32:48,239
i'm not i'm just trying to understand

5649
03:32:50,790 --> 03:32:49,600
where the information is coming from

5650
03:32:53,429 --> 03:32:50,800
please don't think that i think it's

5651
03:32:55,750 --> 03:32:53,439
hogwash because i actually have

5652
03:32:57,830 --> 03:32:55,760
maybe a surprising perspective that

5653
03:33:00,309 --> 03:32:57,840
you're not aware of

5654
03:33:02,630 --> 03:33:00,319
but i keep those very private and it's

5655
03:33:04,710 --> 03:33:02,640
important as an investigator i remain

5656
03:33:06,309 --> 03:33:04,720
remain as objective and as fair as

5657
03:33:09,429 --> 03:33:06,319
possible so that's why i ask you the

5658
03:33:11,590 --> 03:33:09,439
questions that i do it's not personal

5659
03:33:13,670 --> 03:33:11,600
what is lou talking about i mean

5660
03:33:15,670 --> 03:33:13,680
he has a surprising perspective is that

5661
03:33:17,429 --> 03:33:15,680
related to remote viewing is it related

5662
03:33:19,830 --> 03:33:17,439
to something channeling has he got

5663
03:33:21,429 --> 03:33:19,840
channeled like information my god i want

5664
03:33:24,950 --> 03:33:21,439
to know i want to know what he has

5665
03:33:26,630 --> 03:33:24,960
experienced and blumenthal says the cia

5666
03:33:28,070 --> 03:33:26,640
shut down or stopped supporting the

5667
03:33:30,550 --> 03:33:28,080
remote viewing because they saw it

5668
03:33:32,710 --> 03:33:30,560
proved to be a complete dud

5669
03:33:35,110 --> 03:33:32,720
danny says that's total total

5670
03:33:36,630 --> 03:33:35,120
more lying and

5671
03:33:38,070 --> 03:33:36,640
blumenthal says well it's interesting

5672
03:33:39,910 --> 03:33:38,080
that they said that after all these

5673
03:33:41,670 --> 03:33:39,920
years of supporting it and putting all

5674
03:33:43,269 --> 03:33:41,680
the money towards it he goes it's

5675
03:33:44,950 --> 03:33:43,279
interesting that they said that after

5676
03:33:47,269 --> 03:33:44,960
all these it's interesting that they

5677
03:33:49,030 --> 03:33:47,279
said that after all these years of

5678
03:33:50,950 --> 03:33:49,040
support supporting it and putting all

5679
03:33:51,990 --> 03:33:50,960
that money towards it

5680
03:33:53,670 --> 03:33:52,000
by the way

5681
03:33:55,590 --> 03:33:53,680
when you study remote viewing and you

5682
03:33:57,590 --> 03:33:55,600
talk to the remote viewers and people

5683
03:33:59,190 --> 03:33:57,600
they all think there's a good chance the

5684
03:34:00,469 --> 03:33:59,200
remote viewing program never ended or

5685
03:34:02,550 --> 03:34:00,479
it's still going on but they would never

5686
03:34:05,429 --> 03:34:02,560
say they had evidence for it

5687
03:34:07,349 --> 03:34:05,439
but lou jumps in and says ralph are you

5688
03:34:10,389 --> 03:34:07,359
sure that the remote viewing program is

5689
03:34:12,309 --> 03:34:10,399
actually gone the one thought laughs and

5690
03:34:14,070 --> 03:34:12,319
lou goes i'm asking a question i mean

5691
03:34:15,990 --> 03:34:14,080
i'm not going to answer that question

5692
03:34:18,070 --> 03:34:16,000
danny says i don't believe it's gone

5693
03:34:20,070 --> 03:34:18,080
lewis luke says are you sure it's not

5694
03:34:22,070 --> 03:34:20,080
being used anymore in the united states

5695
03:34:24,389 --> 03:34:22,080
government danny says

5696
03:34:25,990 --> 03:34:24,399
nobody puts a pot aside that capacity

5697
03:34:26,830 --> 03:34:26,000
that's been established that's just

5698
03:34:28,550 --> 03:34:26,840
total

5699
03:34:29,990 --> 03:34:28,560
hogwashed

5700
03:34:31,429 --> 03:34:30,000
bloomberg says what we're looking for

5701
03:34:32,630 --> 03:34:31,439
now i mean the new york times is

5702
03:34:34,630 --> 03:34:32,640
something that will move the story

5703
03:34:36,790 --> 03:34:34,640
forward and add to the information that

5704
03:34:38,870 --> 03:34:36,800
we already have and catapult us to a new

5705
03:34:41,030 --> 03:34:38,880
level or tell us something that we don't

5706
03:34:43,750 --> 03:34:41,040
already know or prove something that we

5707
03:34:46,710 --> 03:34:43,760
lo that we've long doubted in dolan to

5708
03:34:48,630 --> 03:34:46,720
blumenthal uh how about have an analysis

5709
03:34:49,230 --> 03:34:48,640
of the davis wilson notes i mean i'm

5710
03:34:51,670 --> 03:34:49,240
just saying

5711
03:34:53,750 --> 03:34:51,680
[Laughter]

5712
03:34:55,349 --> 03:34:53,760
oh my god danny's like with all of your

5713
03:34:57,190 --> 03:34:55,359
help we can find this information out

5714
03:34:59,349 --> 03:34:57,200
even if we have to use remote viewers to

5715
03:35:00,870 --> 03:34:59,359
find it and he laughs you mentioned pat

5716
03:35:03,190 --> 03:35:00,880
price and why i got in so much trouble

5717
03:35:05,670 --> 03:35:03,200
because what you see here marshall is

5718
03:35:06,710 --> 03:35:05,680
human allies of humanity and they all

5719
03:35:09,190 --> 03:35:06,720
laugh

5720
03:35:10,550 --> 03:35:09,200
uh marshall says i could use a few good

5721
03:35:12,950 --> 03:35:10,560
allies right now

5722
03:35:14,710 --> 03:35:12,960
and danny says we we all need we all

5723
03:35:16,389 --> 03:35:14,720
need to out all the we need all the

5724
03:35:17,990 --> 03:35:16,399
allies we can get from all different

5725
03:35:20,150 --> 03:35:18,000
sources et's remote viewing

5726
03:35:21,990 --> 03:35:20,160
investigators reporters and we'll handle

5727
03:35:24,150 --> 03:35:22,000
it responsibly and share it with our

5728
03:35:26,389 --> 03:35:24,160
people and we will exercise our

5729
03:35:27,990 --> 03:35:26,399
constitutional and fundamental rights to

5730
03:35:30,469 --> 03:35:28,000
get access to this information and use

5731
03:35:32,710 --> 03:35:30,479
it responsibly for not only

5732
03:35:34,710 --> 03:35:32,720
to solve the problems of the ufo world

5733
03:35:36,950 --> 03:35:34,720
but also the global climate change and

5734
03:35:39,110 --> 03:35:36,960
other major problems and we need to earn

5735
03:35:41,349 --> 03:35:39,120
the trust of all of our people engaged

5736
03:35:43,110 --> 03:35:41,359
in this process thank you very much and

5737
03:35:45,030 --> 03:35:43,120
marshall says thank you i'll stay in

5738
03:35:47,349 --> 03:35:45,040
contact with any of you who want to be

5739
03:35:48,790 --> 03:35:47,359
in contact with contact with me at that

5740
03:35:50,630 --> 03:35:48,800
point they all shut off their cameras

5741
03:35:52,630 --> 03:35:50,640
i'm just kidding he goes marshall says

5742
03:35:54,469 --> 03:35:52,640
i'm respectful of everybody's experience

5743
03:35:56,469 --> 03:35:54,479
here and we all bring pieces to this

5744
03:35:59,269 --> 03:35:56,479
puzzle we're all in this situation out

5745
03:36:01,349 --> 03:35:59,279
of destiny or choice however you might

5746
03:36:03,670 --> 03:36:01,359
want to interpret that and danny says

5747
03:36:05,830 --> 03:36:03,680
we're in an important part

5748
03:36:09,190 --> 03:36:05,840
danny says we're in an important place

5749
03:36:10,229 --> 03:36:09,200
in our human history

5750
03:36:12,070 --> 03:36:10,239
the

5751
03:36:15,110 --> 03:36:12,080
freaking end

5752
03:36:19,750 --> 03:36:15,120
three and a half hours

5753
03:36:23,429 --> 03:36:21,670
how much does remote viewing cost i paid

5754
03:36:25,349 --> 03:36:23,439
a thousand dollars for remote for lin

5755
03:36:27,349 --> 03:36:25,359
buchanan's three-day class one of the

5756
03:36:29,590 --> 03:36:27,359
original army guys then i took pretty

5757
03:36:31,990 --> 03:36:29,600
prudence calabrese class which

5758
03:36:34,070 --> 03:36:32,000
i think was 250 maybe

5759
03:36:35,910 --> 03:36:34,080
she was cheap but she pissed off the old

5760
03:36:38,229 --> 03:36:35,920
remote viewers because she changed their

5761
03:36:39,670 --> 03:36:38,239
protocols and came up some of her own uh

5762
03:36:40,870 --> 03:36:39,680
but then they liked her later on and

5763
03:36:42,309 --> 03:36:40,880
accepted her and then she disappeared

5764
03:36:43,990 --> 03:36:42,319
from the face of the earth and she lives

5765
03:36:47,110 --> 03:36:44,000
somewhere in southern california not too

5766
03:36:51,349 --> 03:36:49,830
so yeah lou is alluding to a remote

5767
03:36:53,750 --> 03:36:51,359
viewing program that is still

5768
03:36:55,349 --> 03:36:53,760
operational

5769
03:36:56,790 --> 03:36:55,359
is there a way to view this i i don't

5770
03:37:00,870 --> 03:36:56,800
know i don't know

5771
03:37:06,790 --> 03:37:04,309
i'm glad 75 80 people hung in there i

5772
03:37:08,870 --> 03:37:06,800
know some of it was a much

5773
03:37:10,870 --> 03:37:08,880
um i'm going to try to edit so just the

5774
03:37:12,790 --> 03:37:10,880
panel i'll edit these into you know

5775
03:37:14,950 --> 03:37:12,800
different parts i know it's not exciting

5776
03:37:16,790 --> 03:37:14,960
and i pissed myself off by

5777
03:37:18,790 --> 03:37:16,800
not showing the dolan slides i thought

5778
03:37:20,870 --> 03:37:18,800
they were up i mean i could go back i

5779
03:37:23,830 --> 03:37:20,880
have to i can edit i know somebody

5780
03:37:26,229 --> 03:37:23,840
who can do that um

5781
03:37:28,070 --> 03:37:26,239
anyway all right thanks guys

5782
03:37:29,670 --> 03:37:28,080
i'm gonna

5783
03:37:34,790 --> 03:37:29,680
eat dinner

5784
03:37:39,910 --> 03:37:37,670
talk to you guys soon

5785
03:37:42,070 --> 03:37:39,920
no problem dan glad you got here

5786
03:37:44,550 --> 03:37:42,080
it's three and a half hours of

5787
03:37:45,910 --> 03:37:44,560
me talking

5788
03:37:47,670 --> 03:37:45,920
i haven't really been able to go through

5789
03:37:48,550 --> 03:37:47,680
this chat whatsoever but i will look

5790
03:37:50,950 --> 03:37:48,560
later